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Hallmark's The Chicken Sisters S1 E4 It's the Drop, Ya'll

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Grab a glass of wine and join us as we dive into episode four of The Chicken Sisters and unravel what happens when a small town’s hidden truths come to light. "The Drop" is a gripping reminder that nothing is ever as it seems. Secrets explode, loyalties crack, and nothing is off-limits. Just how well do we really know those around us? Each episode peels back another layer, exposing the raw, messy realities behind Marinac’s picture-perfect facade. We’re hooked!


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Amy:

Welcome to Pour the Wine. It's rom-com time where we'll sip some wine and review all things rom-com on the Hallmark Channel. I'm Amy.

Garry:

And I'm Gary.

Amy:

And it's time to Pour the Wine. Move that bus. What are we pouring tonight? We are pouring a-. A white.

Garry:

A white.

Amy:

Chardonnay, chardonnay, it's Josh.

Garry:

Yes, and the vintage is 2023.

Amy:

That's pretty much where we stay. We don't go. We stay in that price range, don't we?

Garry:

Yes, but you know what? This is a good like porch wine.

Amy:

Yes, that's why we went with a white. It's been a little warmer here. Finally, yes it's gonna get cooler this week again, but we were. We had some warm temps this weekend right, we did we had, and this was a big weekend. We had easter that we just celebrated, and my birthday happy easter y'all another trip around the sun happy birthday you so I think it's happened only a couple times in my lifetime, mainly in the 2000s, where Easter because Easter is late this year- yes, it is.

Amy:

It's really late where it's fallen on my birthday, your birthday my birthday, so it was kind of fun. We had a good celebration.

Garry:

Yes, and the kids came over.

Amy:

The kids came over.

Garry:

And what did we do? We spanked them in some cornhole. We did, we did. That's right we like some, we're pretty, yeah, we're undefeated champions in the cornhole, yeah we started a family tradition whenever the weather permits and we're having a dinner and the kids are over, we do a round of um cornhole. So you and I are a team and then the kids. You know the two sets of kids are, they're a team, so we play those two sets and then they play each other and they play the loser bracket.

Amy:

They play the loser bracket, that's right. They play the loser bracket because we're winners.

Garry:

So currently we are 7-0.

Amy:

And it's mainly thanks to you. I was totally off yesterday. No, you were dropping we also, and you know what for Easter this is getting off what? But we also, and you know what for Easter this is getting off.

Garry:

What were you going to say no, I was going to say you had. You were like swishing them there for a minute. You were getting two, Just a couple, Just a couple. Well, you know what I mean.

Amy:

I don't want to brag A humble brag, but you know, yeah, I was kind of kicking it towards the end. Now we also everybody colored Easter eggs and it was a good time.

Garry:

And we bought these little like blue baskets that the eggs fit in. He's so excited about these baskets. Well, the kids were excited about it.

Amy:

Yeah, it is pretty cool. They were so cheap too. We got them from Walmart. They were little, like you put the egg in it and then you dip it in the. Maybe they've been around for a while, we just haven't seen them because our kids haven't been little and we've always just bought the colors we never bought accessories.

Garry:

They come with that little wire, little balancing act. It was pretty cool. Yeah, these were pretty cool.

Amy:

It was pretty fun. It was pretty fun. So we had a big weekend and now we're ready to talk about Chicken Sisters.

Garry:

Yes, but we would love it if you would click that follow button on your favorite podcast platform so you don't miss an episode If you listen on Apple or Spotify. You can also leave us a review. And guess what? We hope it's a five-star review.

Amy:

We hope so Well, we hope it's positive anyway.

Garry:

Just keep it positive.

Amy:

Yeah, keep it positive on there. I mean, you can tell us, let us know what you think.

Garry:

That. Just keep it positive. Yeah, keep it positive on there. I mean, you can tell us that you know, we don't know what we're doing or whatever, but do it in a kind manner. Are you serious?

Amy:

I'm just kidding, just kidding, it's okay. All right, we're good, we're good, we're having fun with it. Well, it is true, we've never done a podcast before, so hopefully, yeah, this is our first time.

Garry:

I guess we're still going. This is our 15th podcast episode.

Amy:

This is our 15th, yeah, so what are we reviewing today?

Garry:

Today we're reviewing the fourth episode of the Chicken Sisters. It's the Drop y'all which aired on Sunday, april 21st 2025. If you missed it, you could catch it in all episodes on Hallmark+. What do you think about that?

Amy:

I think that sounds perfect.

Garry:

So tell us, who are we adding to the list of actors? Slash actresses in the Chicken Sisters.

Amy:

In this particular episode.

Garry:

Yes, ma'am.

Amy:

We just have a few, but if you would like to listen to the entire cast listing, you can check out our first two episode reviews.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

Where we list just about everybody. Oh man, where? We list just about everybody and then in the episodes moving forward, we're adding people that we may not have seen, or may not have seen a lot, in those first two episodes. So now moving forward, we're just adding to the list. So we have tried to list everybody. We're not trying to exclude anybody. And also, when we talk about their credits, we just name a few. It's not going to be every single credit, it's not going to be every Hallmark thing they've been in.

Amy:

I just try to hit some Hallmark things and maybe some things we're familiar with more popular shows but all their work is important.

Garry:

Yes, it is. So if you don't hear your name, don't be upset. No, it's not name. No, all your credits, all your credits, it's okay.

Amy:

All right, so here we go. Dan pain plays grooster and I realized I did not list him last episode, which I should have. That's okay. He actually has over 100 acting credits since since 2001 and see.

Garry:

That's why we cannot list them all, right right because that would be a full. It would be the full episode for hallmark.

Amy:

He was in Fourth Down in Love in 2023.

Garry:

Okay.

Amy:

Journey of my Heart in 2021. All right. Christmas, she Wrote 2020. Matchmaker Mysteries of Fatal Romance in 2020. And Good Witch 10 episodes in 2016.

Garry:

We love the Good Witch. We love the Good Witch. I think every one of these characters had played or had showed up in Good Witch In the Good.

Amy:

Witch maybe. Maybe Seems like it and again, that may not be all of his homework, right right, right, but just some that. I highlighted he was in Once Upon a Time, one episode in 2018. He was in Stargate SG-1. Did you ever watch that? Yes, yes he was in 15 episodes between 2002 and 2005.

Garry:

I did not watch Stargate because that is not my realm. That was like one of the coolest sci-fis ever. But it's funny you mentioned that because it just started showing up in like my Facebook feed. Oh, all the characters from Stargate.

Amy:

Oh, that's weird, yeah, it is, huh Crazy. Hmm, big Brothers listening. Okay, he was also in Smallville, two episodes in 2003.

Garry:

Okay, smallville.

Amy:

Yep Clifton McCabe Murray plays Christian Pierce, Mr Chicken.

Garry:

Mr Chicken, mr Chicken.

Amy:

This, I believe, is his hallmark premiere. He has a dozen acting credits. Okay, his last acting credit before Chicken Sisters was in 2009 in the movie Damage. Oh, wow. He was also in Night at the Museum Battle of the Smithsonian in that same year, in 2009. And he, too, was in an episode of Smallville, but in 2006. Okay, isn't that crazy? All right, hey, come on. Luvia Peterson plays Mary Pat For Hallmark. She was in Holiday Crashers, which was last year, in 2024. She was in North to Home in 2022 and Christmas Sale in 2021.

Garry:

That's interesting.

Amy:

She was also in Riverdale four episodes between 2019 and 2023. She was in one episode of School Spirits in 2023. We have to watch season two.

Garry:

I that's a really good. That's a really good series, you know yes who did it?

Amy:

who did it? Yeah, school spirits. So she was in an episode of the good doctor one episode in 2017. I feel like the good doctor. We see a lot of these actors in that as well, that's's sort of like the ER of today's time, although the show has ended now and she was also in Continuum 39 episodes oh, I love this sci-fi show Uh-huh Between 2012 and 2015. You watched that also, right.

Garry:

Yes, I did, yes, you did I sure did.

Amy:

Yes, you did. So those are the three main characters who popped up and had some scenes.

Garry:

Okay, main characters who popped up and had some scenes in episode four Awesome.

Amy:

So guess what time it is. What time is it?

Garry:

It's trivia time, oh boy Okay. All right, let's go.

Amy:

What kind of trivia are you going to hit me with today?

Garry:

Today? In what year did Hallmark launch a sister channel, hallmark Movie Channel, later became hallmark movies. And mystery what year?

Amy:

oh, that's different than the other yes hallmark channel. Yes, I don't know 2012 close 2004 or not close. I went over. This is the price, right. I would not have won because I went over.

Garry:

No 2004. Okay, so it was Hallmark.

Amy:

What is that one that's?

Garry:

the-? So? In 2004, hallmark launched a sister channel, hallmark Movie Channel, later Hallmark Movies and Mysteries. So that's the trivia question for today. Hallmark Movies and Mysteries? Yes, was the channel, okay.

Amy:

All right movies and mysteries yes, was the channel that okay, all right, cool crazy that is correct.

Garry:

I had no idea, obviously, as evidenced by my guess like I wouldn't, eight years later, to get it right either. So, anyways, I guess it's time to drop this synopsis, and while you're doing that, I'm gonna take a sip of wine oh, you didn't even hand me my wine. Yet here you go, I'm sorry.

Amy:

The wine on his side.

Garry:

It's fine, it's fine, you just sip you, just, you just sip your chardonnay, sip back and sip.

Amy:

Chardonnay. All right, here we go. It's the Drop y'all. Episode number four the Drop. A major event in Maranac brings rival factions, Mimi's and Franny's, together. However, Gus has ulterior motives, setting the stage for potential conflicts and power struggles among the groups.

Garry:

Yes, what a power struggle, what a power struggle right, all right.

Amy:

So generally, I guess you could say this episode it was about the drop.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

Obviously a leggings party, or was it? Is that what it really was? We'll discuss.

Garry:

We'll discuss.

Amy:

We'll discuss and I really think, the general theme of this episode, what really came, what really, in my opinion, was appearances aren't everything exactly that comes out in a lot of the relationships, a lot of the discussions that everybody has. Yeah, um, you, you kind of find out these little nuggets about people and you realize that things aren't always as they appear. Don't judge a book by its cover, because you never know what's you gotta read them pages yeah, you really, you really do so.

Amy:

I feel like that was sort of an overall theme yeah I'm glad we got to see a lot of shauna yes, she was she was the. I know we missed her. What last episode was?

Garry:

it. Yeah, well, the last couple of episodes, yeah.

Amy:

So she was really. You really see more of her character. She really comes out.

Garry:

She did not let us down.

Amy:

In this episode, Right right. So what'd you think?

Garry:

That's exactly what I thought. I felt like no one was happy in their current relationship or current life status, Right. And then you started seeing why you know.

Amy:

Right. What has happened to bring them there?

Garry:

And they did a really good job in each character. And why? Because Amanda, I mean she really came out Right. Yeah, I mean she was the sister that was quiet and let everybody kind of not necessarily walk over her, but you know, she was always the nice one.

Amy:

She was the good Franny's girl and always agreed. She followed. Yes, that's right, they're good Franny's girl. And at the end of the last episode we see her kissing Sergio she wasn't kissing, she was smooching, nancy also sees it.

Garry:

Yes, through the window yes.

Amy:

So that's kind of where we start this episode, right, and what did I say? I?

Garry:

said I wonder if Nancy kind of went through the same thing.

Amy:

You did say that.

Garry:

You did say that, because she does a little confession to Amanda that prior to being engaged with her husband, he had a little meet and greet, a little dalliance, yes, as they say, right With Gus.

Amy:

With Gus. Yeah, that was a big oh spoiler alert.

Garry:

Oh well, spoiler alert.

Amy:

Spoiler alert Sorry.

Garry:

So they continued on the hundred year feud.

Amy:

They continued on with that Right Right on the hundred year feud. They continued on with that Right, right. Well, she, yeah, we do find out, and we find out also about Nancy that she, just if something bad happens or something, she just shuts it down and she acts like it didn't happen and she wants to move on. She doesn't want to discuss it, she doesn't want to bring it up, she wants to be good Franny's girl and move forward. And we all know that when you suppress your emotions, eventually they come out.

Garry:

They come out.

Amy:

In one way or another, something happens and it comes out.

Garry:

She was talking about some magnesium pills make her she couldn't remember the night before, right?

Amy:

Oh, right, right, she kind of joked about. I don't know what you're talking about, amanda, I didn't see anything.

Garry:

But what I found interesting also was that when they were talking about her story when she was younger and she had the miscarriage, she just wanted another child, kind of like Amanda wants another child right now. So in finding, when Junior and Amanda got married, it was like her second child, her daughter, right, and that's how they portrayed it. And then with Amanda, it was like she just wanted a mom.

Amy:

Right, and so she got a mom in Nancy. That's a good point. They both sort of found each other and met the needs that the other one had at the moment.

Garry:

Yeah, I'm glad they kind of revealed that.

Amy:

Yeah, you know, going into a man, since we're talking about Amanda, a little bit talking about her, and and May, you know you find out that May has secretly been sending Gus money.

Garry:

Yes, which was?

Amy:

which was a pretty big, I think, revelation even for Gus, and I think deep down Gus probably appreciates it. You know, because she says she loves harder than anybody. I know, you know, you know she may not act like it, you know, and Patrick's like, well, maybe you should act like it. You know it's kind of funny, but but you know, may is really she's trying to make amends Right, really she's really trying, but she struggles with it because, again, she doesn't know what's happening on the other side.

Amy:

And between her and Amanda when she's kind of upset with Amanda, but then they have that discussion at the drop the party, the drop where she. You know, amanda, it's also about perception.

Garry:

Yes, the episode Because.

Amy:

Amanda, you know, may says what do you remember when we were Younger? When we were younger and I'm struggling right now the mac and cheese, yeah, yeah, she's like that's because we couldn't. You couldn't afford milk, right, we couldn't afford milk, and then when we would play the game where we were in the dark, the hide and seek the hide and seek and Amanda's like, oh yeah, that was really fun. And she's like didn't know all the things that May actually did to keep their family afloat when they were younger.

Garry:

Yeah, and that's what I like about this writing, because it was when Amanda told her that. Or when May told Amanda you know, yeah, I had to pay the electric bill with my tips. You could see that Amanda was. It dawned on her like, oh, I can see now.

Amy:

But she was like what, do you want a cookie or something? Yeah, and she couldn't get out of her own way in that moment. She still wanted to be that stubborn, like what do you want a medal? Yes, you know because you did all that when we were kids and then you do.

Amy:

kind of that opens up for May you do see you, you know why she is the way she is. It's becoming a little more clear. Like she was the adult in the family. She had to take care of things, you know, at a very young age. And then she continued, even though she wanted to get out of the town. She continued to help her mom by sending her money under the guise of an llc yeah, the fan incident ll that's pretty funny.

Garry:

And Gus was like, ooh, maybe I can get some more money.

Amy:

Yeah, yeah, Gus said so. You're telling me I can contact the fan company and get some money then.

Garry:

I thought that was pretty good. Yeah.

Amy:

And then you also, you know, in this episode you see the relationship between May and Sabrina, since we're talking about May.

Garry:

Yes, that was a good.

Amy:

There's so many directions we can go, I know, but between May and Sabrina, and we know they have a beef, but you don't know what the beef is.

Garry:

Until this episode.

Amy:

And then you find out.

Garry:

Yes, that, uh. What did you say? Perception right Is everything, don't catch the book by its cover Right, because when they were first getting into the business, um, may and Sabrina, when they met, uh, sabrina acted like she was rich and you know she was married.

Amy:

Well, she was. Her husband had money and she had money, and but she was what acting? They were both in New York City trying to act.

Garry:

Yeah, and then you know, later on they meet up for lunch and May was struggling at that time and she really didn't have any money. And I thought it was interesting when she was sitting down waiting for Sabrina, she was looking at her bank account and she was like overdrawn, overdrawn, yeah, yeah. But then Sabrina comes and sits down and talks about how great her life is and that she's gonna be doing an audition. For what is that? Flip your Cubicles.

Amy:

Right. Well, she says the divorce is going great and I'm getting all this money and yeah. And then Sabrina tells May about the audition that she's going to go on and May views it. As you know, I need that audition more than you because I really need the money.

Garry:

Which you don't know until later on in the episode, because you see May coming out of the audition talking to the people that were doing the audition, saying you know, thank you, it's great, and all this other stuff, and Sabrina's looking at her like what you didn't the audition saying you know, thank you, it's great, and all this other stuff, and Sabrina's looking at her like what you didn't even want this job, you know.

Garry:

Or no, you're here because you found out about it from me and then May leaves without seeing Sabrina, so she never knows that this is the reason why Sabrina is not. That's right.

Amy:

That's right. She has no idea. She has no idea, she has no clue, and that's also where communication comes in. You know if you're upset with somebody or you think somebody's upset with you. Let them know, find out. It doesn't have to be a big confrontation.

Garry:

They might not know they did something to you.

Amy:

Yep, that's exactly right. What are we always saying? You have to. If you don't give the other person a chance to change or let you know what's wrong, it's unfair to still be upset with them. Exactly Because you don't know. Now, if you say something and you know they're kind of a-holes about it, then that's different you know, then that's on them, but if not, so they both went years under.

Amy:

you know May had no idea Sabrina was upset with her. Sabrina let this fester because it upset her, because then you find out that Sabrina really did need that money. Her husband was taking all the money, but you don't know that because she acted like everything was fine. Yeah, at that luncheon with May, yeah, and that's where you know they both had misconceptions of each other.

Garry:

So, yeah, I thought that that was really interesting. She ended up losing custody of her child.

Amy:

Yeah, because she didn't have. Well, she didn't have the money and yeah yeah, so that was.

Garry:

That was a sad part in that.

Amy:

Yeah, yeah, I know, I know there was there was a lot like every episode is just so packed with things yes you know, we we try to break it down, but there are just so many little. There's so many different levels of relationships and where they're at and things that happen and the perceptions, and it's a lot. It's great. That's why I think it's so great.

Garry:

And the writing is brilliant and it's based on the book which also obviously was great, you know, because these characters are fantastic.

Amy:

Can we just take a minute? Gus jumping in the back of that truck. There's a scene where so gus goes to the leggings party and they all think she's there because she thinks sabrina's going to be there, right? So, because gus is, what is um? And nancy says to her oh, it looks like you put a comb through your hair for once. You know, that was funny, that was funny. So gus comes in and she's like I'm literally here to buy leggings. I'm here to buy leggings, and they're like, no, you're not. And she's like, yes, I am. And then she leaves. She buys the leggings and then she leaves and then goes and jumps in the back of a pickup with uh good for wendy malik, the actress who plays gus, for doing that.

Amy:

That was pretty good.

Garry:

That was fun Assuming that was her. And then you know, she was going to celebrate with Sergio Kenneth and Patrick. Right, Because they were throwing a little party for Sergio.

Amy:

I guess his divorce or whatever Divorce went through A divorce party.

Garry:

So they went to a bar, to a bar, and one of the things that was interesting is Patrick kept you know talking about Gus's daughter Amanda or May. Yes, you know, and later on in the episode Gus confronted him. He's like stop talking about May, right, you know, she's my daughter and you know.

Amy:

Yeah.

Garry:

I just thought because I guess she felt like she wasn't a good mother and you can tell when Patrick apologized he was like you are a good mother and I apologize for you know, bashing her.

Amy:

For bashing her. Well, he continued to, because it's funny when people think you're on their side of things.

Garry:

You always say that too.

Amy:

Yeah, well, and he's still talking to Mae's mother. Yeah, now Mae might be mad at her. It's like a family thing, right, I can be mad at the kids, but if you're mad at my kid there's going to be an issue. That's right If you're talking about my kid they may have made me really upset.

Amy:

But if you come up in here here and you're saying stuff you know about one of the kids, I'm going to have a problem with that, even if I just yelled at him, you know, like that's going to be an issue. Yeah so, but he just felt too comfortable in continuing to talk about May and you know, in disparaging way, and it was good to see her put her foot down like get her name out of your mouth. I know she said that too.

Garry:

Yeah, she did.

Amy:

She Out of your mouth.

Garry:

I know she said that too.

Amy:

Yeah, she did.

Garry:

She's like you're not going to talk about her and he's like, okay, and then he did apologize later, which was good, and he said something to the effect of just show them that you love them yeah.

Amy:

We know you love them, You're a good mom. But maybe you could show it occasionally. But she just doesn't know how, she doesn't own way for that. And what did they say in one of the first episodes? You know she shows it by cooking. You know she may not say it or give them hugs, but there are ways that she does Right.

Garry:

And what about her drinking milk in a bar?

Amy:

That was funny, that was pretty good too.

Garry:

I love it.

Amy:

Didn't Sergio ask her are you going to have something stronger than milk?

Garry:

But then she ends up calling Jen because of when Patrick apologized to her. She called up Jen and was like hey, can you come over? And I'm like man it is late at night. You're calling Jen. He's asleep in bed with his wife, so apparently he must be either a priest or a counselor or something, because she feels like she gets to a point and she needs to talk to somebody.

Amy:

Maybe she was an alcoholic. Maybe he's her, oh you know what?

Garry:

That's a good point.

Amy:

It just struck me just now, literally while we were talking about it, because she's in the bar drinking milk and maybe she feels like she needs a drink.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

This is a part where she would want to get a drink and she won't do it because maybe that's what it is.

Garry:

Oh, oh Good, and I've never seen the spoiler. We'll find out right.

Amy:

So if that's it, and you guys are listening and you've already seen it or read the book. I've not seen the spoiler. I don't know.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

I truly don't know. We haven't watched it or anything, but now that we're talking about it, it just kind of hit me. Maybe he's her sponsor, right, don't you?

Garry:

have like a sponsor. Yeah, you do have sponsors, that's true.

Amy:

Maybe that's who he is to her. I don't know, We'll see. So should we go back to? We haven't talked about Amanda and Frank Jr yet.

Garry:

Ooh, yeah, let's do that.

Amy:

Or should we talk about the drop itself?

Garry:

Well, we'll get back to that. That'll be like the ending. Okay, okay.

Amy:

So Amanda and Frank Jr well, it kind of has to do with the drop if we're talking about them. So Frank Jr meets his idol.

Garry:

Yes, his idol, mr.

Amy:

Chicken comes to town. Who has what a franchise of chicken restaurants?

Garry:

And he's's that's what frank wants to do, that's what?

Amy:

yeah, that's what frank jr wants to. Even. Yeah, because he wants to franchise and this guy comes into town and frank jr stalks him. Basically, you know he's at the end waiting for him yeah, and he just so badly wants to please this guy because I guess the guy is going to judge the competition.

Garry:

Right, he's one of the judges Mr Chicken's going to be one of the judges.

Amy:

So he stalks him at the hotel and waits for him to come and check in, and then they kind of go around town. So I'm curious what Mr Chicken's angle is going to be. You can already kind of see he's using Frank Jr.

Amy:

Yeah, he wants him to be a beta slash alpha tester for hard with two Ds. Yeah, there was a little insinuation there, I'm not quite sure what's going on there. So well, I don't know. Yeah, I think he's. Yeah, we'll have to wait and see. I think he's going to end up wanting to open a restaurant. It kind of seemed like it. Yeah.

Garry:

Because he saw that. He saw that pancake restaurant that was closed.

Amy:

Yes.

Garry:

And Junior had told him that, uh, the mayor closed it down because he didn't want to have a franchise on main street.

Amy:

So and you can see the wheels turning, yeah turning.

Garry:

Yeah, but um again, you know this episode was about people not being happy with their lives and he's sitting down. When he took Mr Chicken to his restaurant, franny's, to have a beer, he's sitting there saying, you know, kind of like my life sucks and Mr Chicken's, like you know, you got to take the bull by the horns and be unapologetic, right.

Amy:

That comes into play, that comes into play later on in the episode Right Right.

Garry:

But he was funny.

Amy:

But it's like yeah, he basically is like you got to puff your chest out more, and you know, I mean not so many words. Yeah, that was like yeah, and be unapologetic. That's right, well, and then.

Amy:

So We'll get back to Amanda and Frank Jr Then, because at the drop you find out that we just we got to go back to Shauna a little bit Like her, her businesses, that she has her. What is it? Live laugh, leggings. You know the drop, but you find out it's really not about purchasing. It's not a leggings party, it's not a home party for leggings, it is actually about the gossip that comes out when she's drunk.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

Doing air quotes like people can see me, but drunk on her chocolate wine that she also makes and distributes, and she's trying to, or not, distributes, but she's experimenting with melting chocolate chips and putting it in wine.

Garry:

Yeah, Merlot, or something yeah.

Amy:

I think it was Merlot, but so it ends up being basically a gossip session, right Right, so she drops gossip about the town. That's what everybody comes for, really. Right To hear what's going on. They're all gossiping.

Garry:

Yeah, they are.

Amy:

And trying to find out what's going on. And then you find out that she says that Frank Jr had a vasectomy yeah. And Amanda and Nancy did not know that, right, and that would be something you might want to talk about with your wife. Yes, before you just go, do it, especially when you keep telling her you do want one more kid right. Right, right, so he's getting her to do things.

Garry:

He's manipulating her without really telling her what's going on.

Amy:

Well, she's the one who wanted a kid, and he was resistant to it. He was kind of like you mean she was saying you do want one more kid, right? Yeah, she's trying to push it and he never tells her that he got a vasectomy. So it's basically not going to happen.

Garry:

And then she leaves, upset, nancy stays but kind of goes off into a different room, and then the town. And then May, oh, tired of talking about my family, my mom, my sister, and if you want to talk about somebody, talk about me. And then she goes into a confession and she talks about how she did Sabrina dirty, and then she talks about how she hasn't told her husband you know where she's actually from, right, and I just thought when they brought that together I was like wow, this is some really good writing right here, yeah, and she admits she's self-absorbed and then, right before she's walking out, she drops a truth bomb on herself.

Amy:

And that's the thing. Glass houses right.

Garry:

Like you don't know.

Amy:

She says to Deirdre, I kissed your boyfriend under the bleachers in 11th grade, and then she walks out and then the whole town turns on each other. They're like oh yeah, I saw you and I know you're looking in windows when you're on your walk, when you're on your walks, and I know, and you know, it's like that in small towns you know, there's like what is it, mrs um? What was the bewitched neighbor who was really nosy, mrs kravitz?

Garry:

is that right? I don't remember.

Amy:

Oh gosh, I should have looked that up yeah, but that's what I thought of someone like that, or um mrs hoober in desperate housewives yes it was hoober right she's the nosy neighbor, but in this case it's like almost the entire town yeah like everybody wants to know. So then amanda storms off, or I'm sorry. Uh, then may leaves right the drop and the town kind of turns on each other. I also liked it. I just need to go back to Shawna one more time when she says she's married to making money.

Garry:

Yes, yes Because.

Amy:

Sabrina, I think, asks her.

Garry:

Was it Sabrina? Yes, it was Sabrina, because she was trying to get the cameras there. Yes, and she's like she said I don't see a ring on your finger and she goes well, I'm married to my business, I'm married to my yeah, I'm married to my businesses.

Amy:

Yeah, I thought that that was pretty good too. And you just learn that Shauna is really a hustler. She's making money, she's doing things, and then you also find out at the end of the drop she's not really drunk when she's spilling the tea.

Garry:

She says you think I run my businesses drunk. It's called marketing.

Amy:

That was really smart.

Garry:

I just thought that was so good, so cheeky, so she does the drop to bring them in to buy the leggings and all her other Smart lady.

Amy:

Smart lady, it's called marketing.

Garry:

Yeah, and the reason the vasectomy thing came out was because prior to that, amanda was in the bathroom and you could hear her.

Amy:

She sounded like she was throwing up.

Garry:

And then I think somebody said oh, she's pregnant. And then that's when Shauna goes nope, there's no way, because Junior had a vasectomy. And then that's when everything goes crazy.

Amy:

Yeah.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

But yeah, vasectomy. And then that's when everything goes crazy yeah, yeah, but yeah. And then, um, if we go back to nancy after after shauna drops the vasectomy line about frank jr, and we go back to nancy and um, and shauna says you know something like isn't it better to know, aren't you glad you know right? And nancy's like i't know, I don't think so. Like there are some things, maybe you just shouldn't.

Amy:

Yeah, you know people don't want to know, right, I'm not talking like that's something private between him and his wife. Now, if his wife doesn't know, that's different. She should know, but as a parent or you know, you're not going to know everything and there are some things I mean I know there are some things we don't want to know yes, definitely with four kids.

Garry:

I definitely don't know. I know there's a lot we don't know and I'm okay with that.

Amy:

Now you know, I mean they can talk to us, they. They know they can come to us. We have open conversations about things. But I know there are things that we don't know and I am just as happy not to me so yeah, I mean everything is not, you know, open for discussion or everyone needs to know all the time everywhere. I mean I'm a pretty open book, but you know yeah, you are but not with like the world.

Amy:

I mean, I guess kind of a little bit, but but then shauna gets everybody out of her house.

Garry:

It's like, all right, all right, it's time to go, time to go Party over, bye, see you, bye. And then that's when the next thing that comes up is Amanda on the couch and Junior comes home and he's like you know what's going on? Because he thinks he's had a great day. You know, because he talked to Mr Chicken, right, right. And she goes on and says you know, I can forgive you for your drinking, I can forgive you the way you talk to me and your mom, but I don't think I can forgive you for this. And he was like, well, I'm unapologetic.

Amy:

Well, she said are you even sorry, yeah?

Garry:

And he was like well, I'm unapologetic. Well, she said are you even sorry?

Amy:

Yeah, and he said no, I'm unapologetic, I'd have been like then get your stuff and go. Well, what's weird about that is his face is kind of like like he feels bad, that she feels badly, so I'm not like I can't decide. Is he a jerk deep down Like? Is that his true nature? Or is he just sort of hardened by his life and he's unhappy where he is and he's actually kind of a nice guy?

Garry:

Well, I guess we'll have to stay tuned, right.

Amy:

We're going to have to find out. You know, I did read an article that said and I'll have to look more into this that the kiss between Amanda and Sergio was not in the book. Oh, it wasn't yeah, and that they added that in, but I'll have to do a deeper dive into that. I saw a headline and I meant to follow up on that because I was like, oh, that's interesting. They added that for you know television effect and whatnot, but anyway, sorry, I digress. Getting back to Frank, Jr.

Amy:

You know he's, I just I can't decide, because he has moments where you think, oh, you know he's, I just I can't decide, because he has moments where you think, oh, you know he wants to come out, you know he just needs a change.

Amy:

But maybe he was always kind of that way and we just you know, and amanda overlooked it and just married because she so badly wanted to be in the franny world and she wanted to be a franny's girl and she did everything she could, you know. So I, I guess I mean we'll find out.

Garry:

Yeah, we will. And then after that particular scene, you see Amanda, she's knocking on somebody's door, so we don't know who she's going to see.

Amy:

Right, we don't know who's gonna. Who opened the door? Who opened the?

Garry:

door. So that's, I think that'll be next episode.

Amy:

Well, and you kind of see, you know Sergio, like he's kind of upset about the voicemail that Amanda leaves. Amanda talks to Nancy and Nancy is basically like you need to make a decision. Yeah, so Amanda, is you know, in her head going I'm married.

Garry:

I need to stay.

Amy:

I have a kid I'm, you know, I need to stay in that marriage. And she calls and leaves Sergio that voicemail saying as much, Right, and then he listens to it and he just gives a thumbs up and she's kind of like, oh okay, you know, must not have meant that much to you, you know, or whatever. But and I wasn't sure if that was surface or just because she said she liked to feel seen like she felt seen by Sergio and that's what that was about.

Amy:

Or but when she leaves the message she's kind of like yeah, you know, I'm married and it's you know she doesn't want to say, it's not great, it's not, you know. So you know she's, I don't know it's tough, you know. Will she stay in a marriage that she's not happy in? Because, it's the right thing to do.

Garry:

We're going to find out.

Amy:

I mean, should you do that? Should you stay in a marriage that you're not happy in?

Garry:

No, I don't think you should.

Amy:

I don't think so either. Time's too short.

Garry:

If you're not happy, don't stay, but be. You know what's the word Amicable, or you know, be Amicable, Amicable.

Amy:

With a divorce?

Garry:

Yes, and just say, look, it's not working.

Amy:

Which I mean it was hard for us. If we're admitting with an easy road and if it's amicable, it's much better.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

Better for the kids. But I mean, I don't think you should just walk away at the first sign of trouble, but I do think that you shouldn't, you know, never settle.

Garry:

Yeah, never settle.

Amy:

And I don't subscribe to marriage as hard work. I know A lot of people say that and we haven't really discussed that here yet, but I don't. Um, I don't think so. Is it work? Yes, I mean, does the other person annoy you? Yes, I know I annoy you. You know you annoy me sometimes it's not all the time oh sorry, let me count the ways.

Amy:

No, I'm just kidding, but you know you're going to have that, you're going to get mad, you're going to argue, those things are going to happen. That's not to say marriage is perfect, but I just don't view it as this big chore in life. It should be fun, it should be natural. You should be with someone who feeds your soul.

Garry:

You should be Lifts you up.

Amy:

And lifts you up and doesn't bring you down, and I just don't understand that. It's hard work.

Garry:

Yeah, they're always. Whenever you watch a series and it talks about marriage, they always say oh well, marriage is hard work. No, it's not. If you're thinking that you should not be getting married, or you're married to the wrong person, or you're married to the wrong person. That's what I think. Yeah, that's true.

Amy:

Now does that mean you go through really hard times and is it hard to stay together?

Amy:

Yeah, I mean if there's infidelity. If there's, you know, I mean obviously abuse. That's different, but any kind of abuse, emotional or physical. But you know, some people choose to stay after infidelity and that's their choice, you know. And if it is work in that way, I get that part of it. But in general, you know, I just don't think it is work in that way. I get that part of it, but in general I just don't think it is but anyway.

Amy:

but we have Amanda who's sort of kind of. She's staying, but you can tell she doesn't want to stay and so we're going to see what happens and Sergio's song.

Garry:

Oh my God, that man can sing, though. I'll give him that I could fall in love.

Amy:

The lyrics were perfect, yeah.

Garry:

It was like Kenneth and Patrick set him up with that. That was the.

Amy:

Selena song, Selena's I Could Fall in Love. It was perfect for the moment, that's for sure.

Garry:

Well, and the other thing was you also see Mae.

Amy:

She was walking down the street and then she stops, and then she calls her fiance and says you know, she's ready to come clean about where she worked, where she worked she worked on broadway, but you know at donkeys and I liked how she did the air z when she said that oh gosh, and the narrator. I like the narration a lot. She gives the one-liners and um, you know, the southern sneak attack, you know, like with the smile and um. So it just yeah the. The episode just worked. It's going to be interesting to see where amanda's going, yep, how may's fiance reacts. What happens with sergio?

Amy:

yep nancy yeah what's going to happen with her shauna. She had her big episode. Hopefully she's going to happen with her Shauna. She had her big episode. Hopefully she's going to be in more and we're going to see more of her background, maybe in the future episodes. Maybe not, but maybe we'll peel back the layers of her in future episodes. We saw a little bit, but it's kind of fun.

Garry:

Yeah about these isms is when Nancy was talking to Amanda, when she found out that she or when she saw kiss Sergio it was, she said something like you can't show up to the drop looking like a business end of a broomstick.

Amy:

That was funny. So, she's got some really good one-liners. And then she also made a comment about that Men. Men are weaker than tea steeped in cold water. You know, men, sometimes they're weaker than tea, I just love her. Yeah, that's another ism You're going to have to keep track. So if you had to rank it with corks, which we do out. Of five corks.

Garry:

I'm giving this one a five.

Amy:

Same. I mean it was excellent Five corks. I'm giving this one a five Same. I mean, it was excellent Five Corks.

Garry:

I thought it was one of the better episodes so far.

Amy:

Yeah.

Garry:

Actually, this was probably the best episode so far.

Amy:

Oh, you like this one the best. Yes, oh, interesting.

Garry:

Yes, so I give it. What do you give it?

Amy:

I just said it Five you give it a five too.

Garry:

That's a 55.

Amy:

Five out of five.

Garry:

Okay. Well, is that a wrap? That's a wrap. All right, then. Thanks for listening. Be sure to follow the podcast wherever you listen so you don't miss one. Also, follow us on social media If you really really like the show and are listening on Apple.

Amy:

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Garry:

Positive or a positive review. Yes, please leave a five-star review Positive or a positive one and if you don't really really like the show.

Amy:

leave a five-star review anyways, or a positive review or a positive one, just a positive. We don't want to beg for you know, if you really want to give it four stars.

Garry:

that's okay, I'm being funny.

Amy:

Are you?

Garry:

No, I'm not no.

Amy:

Be sure to join us next Tuesday when we review episode number five Not the Hydrangeas y'all, which I'm very curious about that one, yes, which will air on Sunday, April 27th 2025 on the Hallmark Channel. Be sure to also tune in on Wednesdays for our Hallmark movie reviews. Until then, fill up your glasses and push play. Thanks for listening, Cheers.