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Hallmark's Signed, Sealed, Delivered The Impossible Dream

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In this episode of Pour The Wine, It’s Rom-Com Time, Garry and Amy take a heartfelt dive into Hallmark’s Signed, Sealed, Delivered: The Impossible Dream. The Postables leave the comfort of the Dead Letter Office behind as they testify before Congress in the case of a soldier missing in Afghanistan. As timelines and locations intertwine, the team deciphers a mysterious message that just might hold the key to a daring rescue. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to the series, this gripping episode reminds us that sometimes, a single letter can change everything.

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Amy:

Welcome to Pour the Wine. It's rom-com time where we'll sip some wine and review all things. Rom-com on the Homework channel. I'm Amy and I'm Gary and you're A-pouring A-pouring Some Chardonnay. It's still so stinking hot. It's been like 100 degrees every day.

Garry:

Yes, it has been.

Amy:

Kind of getting over it. I know I'm running for fall, but I know I'll miss it when it's, you know, 20 degrees, but right now it's been a lot.

Garry:

I know.

Amy:

I thought it was Christmas in July, isn't it supposed to be cooler? No, just kidding Already her. Well, we would love. And if you listen on Apple or Spotify, we would really appreciate it. You know, if you have some extra time, some free time, and leave us a review, let us know how we're doing.

Garry:

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Amy:

Please do yes.

Garry:

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Amy:

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Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

Shoot us an email and let us know your thoughts about anything that's going on on Hallmark right now. We're in Christmas in July, so anything Christmas in July. Today we're going to be reviewing a Signed, sealed, delivered movie, so maybe you have thoughts about the Signed, sealed, delivered canon that you'd like to share. Yes, please do. Please do, yes.

Garry:

And speaking about the Signed, sealed Delivered canon, we've been working our way through the Signed, sealed, delivered canon. Yes, we have, and today we're reviewing the Impossible Dream that first aired on October 4th 2014.

Amy:

Wow so 11 years ago. Well, almost 11 years ago right.

Garry:

Yeah, and I still can't believe I didn't watch this back then.

Amy:

I know, we sure did not, but we're doing it now. Yeah, so tell us who is in this one, well, our returning favorites, the Postables. So what we're?

Garry:

going to do is.

Amy:

I'll talk about the cast that's in this one. Excuse you, frog in my throat again.

Garry:

This one tearing you up.

Amy:

It's tearing me up. Already We've mentioned the four postables before. We've talked about their work in previous episodes, so if you'd like to hear more about them, you can go to To the Moon and Back, or For Christmas. I think we cover each of them in those, but we didn't want to make it too long and repeat them, so we don't. So, returning our Eric Mabeus he plays Oliver O'Toole. Of course. Kristen Booth plays Shane McInerney.

Garry:

That one's a little bit hard for you. I'm sorry I was taking a sip of that.

Amy:

You almost spit out your wine, when I said that you always have a hard for you.

Garry:

I'm sorry, I was taking a sip of that you almost spit out your wine.

Amy:

When I said that Sometimes I do wish we had video because it is good, you literally almost spit out your wine. All right, anywho, I know that last name gets me every time. Crystal Lowe plays Rita Hayworth. Jeff Gustafson plays Norman. Also returning this episode is Zach Santiago as Ramon Rodriguez. And from Truth Be Told. This is a continuation of Truth Be Told, which we did not know when we first started watching it.

Garry:

No, we didn't.

Amy:

Megan Carpenter plays Phoebe Amidon and William B Davis plays Harper and Phoebe. It's Phoebe's mom who is MIA missing right in Afghanistan and presumed dead. They feel confident that she did not survive right and Harper is the lieutenant's father, so Megan's the daughter and Harper's the father. Also in the Impossible Dream is Mark Bally. He plays Steve Merrick. His other hallmark work includes Signed, Sealed, Delivered Higher Ground in 2017, which I think we're a few movies away from in the canon the Emma Fielding Mystery is More Bitter Than Death in 2019.

Amy:

And some of his other work includes Bride Hard, which was just out this year, in 2025. One episode of the Flash in 2018. He was in seven episodes of Girlfriend's Guide to Divorce Wow Between 2015 and 2017. The series Harry's Law 22 episodes Between 2011 and 2012,. 12 episodes of Fringe, which we like, between 2008 and 2009. 12 episodes of Fringe, which we like, between 2008 and 2009. And he's largely known for playing Jack Dubrow for 338 episodes in Days of Our Lives between 1994 and 1997.

Garry:

A lot of these guys and gals came from soap operas.

Amy:

Tammy Gillis plays Randy Lynn Amidon. She is the lieutenant who is missing, currently missing. She's done a ton of Hallmark work, including the prequel to this. Truth Be Told in 2015. Curious Caterer Forbidden Fruit in 2024.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

Two episodes of Chesapeake Shores in 2022. Poisoned in Paradise, a Martha's Vineyard mystery, in 2021. And Mar marrying Mr Darcy in 2018. Some of her other work includes murder in a small town for an episode in 2024. She was in the TV series siren for 16 episodes between 2018 and 2020. The movie once upon a time in 2016 and girlfriend's guide to divorce in 2014. I believe just an episode there. Cool. Christina Bianco plays Mindy. She is one of Rita's fellow contestants in the Miss special delivery pageant. This is her Hallmark premiere. She has 10 acting credits, including one episode of annoyingly fit neighbor in 2021. I like that title. The podcast series the Ballad of Anne and Mary between 2021 and 2024, and she voiced the role of Anne. And she was also in a series called Impress Me for nine episodes in 2015.

Garry:

Okay.

Amy:

Karen Konoval plays the chairwoman. Her other hallmark work includes three episodes of when Call calls the heart between 2015 and 2023. The christmas secret and garage sale mystery all that glitters in 2014, oh wow. Some of her other work in her nearly 150 acting credits includes I know it goes way back wild card six episodes in 2024 and 2025. The tv series snow Snowpiercer, which I'd never heard of.

Garry:

Me neither.

Amy:

She was in 30 episodes of that between 2020 and 2024. The Good Doctor she was in 13 episodes between 2018 and 2020.

Garry:

I remember her in that.

Amy:

She was in. Yeah, that's right, that's what we recognize her from the Planet of the Apes movies Rise of the Planet of the Apes in 2011. Dawn of the Planet of the apes movies rise of the planet of the apes in 2011. Dawn of the planet of the apes in 2014, war for planet of the apes and kingdom of the planet of the apes, and she was in three episodes of 21 jump street.

Garry:

oh, between 1987 and 1991 you do I think so, if I saw the character memory there.

Amy:

Fred hend Henderson plays the senator from Illinois and these two last actors that I mentioned, they're part of the committee Right In Congress.

Garry:

The congressional committee.

Amy:

Hallmark fans will definitely recognize him. He's done a ton of Hallmark work. He was in several each year. Going back to like 2018 or so. He had like two or three each year, right, 2018. Going back to like 2018 or so, we had like two or three each year in 2018. He was in Christmas on Cherry Lane, mystery on Mistletoe Lane and Fourth Down in Love in 2023. He was in one episode of Chesapeake Shores and the movie Campfire Christmas in 2022. Some of his other 156 acting credits include which we will not go over all of them Superman and Lois, two episodes between 2021 and 24. It was in three episodes of Riverdale between 2019 and 2021. And he was in Final Destination 2. Okay, in 2003. And another one of those just dropped this year, right?

Garry:

Yes, I believe so Just relatively recently.

Amy:

I think Crystal Lowe was in it.

Garry:

Oh yeah, she was in the latest.

Amy:

That's right. I don't know if it's four or five, I don't know. There was a lot. He too was in one episode of 21 Jump Street in 1990.

Garry:

Going all the way back it's amazing these characters are in some of the same or actors in some of the same shows, so is it time to drop the synopsis.

Amy:

It is time to drop the synopsis.

Garry:

Okay, the DLO postals give testimony before a closed congressional committee regarding an American soldier missing in action and presumed dead, whose daughter they met previously. At the same time, rita participates in the National Miss Special Delivery Pageant.

Amy:

Yes, Bum bum, bum, Bum, bum bum, and we have a spoiler alert Now. To be fair, it is almost 11 years old, so I feel like we. So we are going to talk about this movie, so if you have not seen it, push pause on our podcast go watch it and then come back, because there will be spoilers in this episode we can't help it. We can't help it. But, like I said, I mean it's 11 years old, 11 years old, almost 11 years, so we're good Okay. I think we're good.

Garry:

All right, so I don't know here.

Amy:

Ooh, ooh. So I think I think it's fair to say that we would love to go scene by scene by scene by scene and talk about everything. There is so much in each movie. There are so many nuances, so many details that we could go into and I mean we would be talking for like three hours. So we try to strict to or stick to, not strict to stick to. Um, you know just a few things. We talk about our first impressions, our favorite scenes.

Amy:

Yes, our cheers and our cheers and our jeers and just know that if we leave something out, it's not because we don't think it's important, it's that because there's so much and if we could we would talk about everything. I mean, I think I have like 10 pages of notes on this particular movie and I never have that many yes, on anything outside of the science field delivery. I have like 10 pages of notes on this particular movie and I never have that many on anything outside of the science field delivery.

Amy:

You know we do other movies, other Hallmark movies and TV series and my notes are really extensive on these, but we can't possibly cover it all, so that's just a little. That's a disclaimer.

Garry:

There you go so before we start what do you think? What was your first take on this one? Oh, my goodness, Take a deep breath While you're doing that. I'm going to take a sip.

Amy:

Are you going to take a sip? How about if I take a sip first, you take?

Garry:

a sip first, because, man, there's a lot to go on on this one.

Amy:

All right. So my first take, my first impression. I've mentioned before how each movie brilliantly navigates the parallels between the lost letter story and the lives of the postables. So usually there's just a lot going on. So in this movie the weaving of the story was fantastic. Except this time we don't have the letter initially Right, we don't know it. Yet we have it. What like halfway through, I don't even know, maybe midway through Right, they have it. What like halfway through, I don't even know what, maybe mid to three quarter, maybe midway through Right they discuss it.

Amy:

Don't quote me, don't come at me. I can't remember exactly when it came in, but it's not at the beginning, like we normally see these movies, right? So this story is navigating between the present day and a few days prior, in both the United States and Afghanistan, right, right, so there's just, there's a lot going on, and even with a slight you know change of the way the story is delivered, all the signature, signed, sealed, delivered elements are there, right? So we have the mystery, we have the dead letter eventually show up, the postables are investigating, but in the meantime we get that peek into their personal lives and relationships yeah so I just I think it's so good.

Amy:

I mean, and you and I talked about this, we did not know it was going to be a continuation. Of truth be told, yep, um, and I'd be curious at the time when they released it. I can't remember. I think, truth be told, maybe you aired about a month before this one. I'd have to look at the dates. I'm not 100 certain about that, but, um, wait a minute what I just realized I made a mistake. You made a mistake. The impossible dream actually aired in 2015.

Garry:

Oh, so I was saying.

Amy:

I've been saying 2014 and 11 years. So it's it was. It was October 4th of 2015. I'm sorry, that is completely my mistake. So it aired almost 10 years ago, right, right, and, truth be told, aired, I believe, about a month before it, same year, 2015. Right, right, right, not to be confused.

Garry:

That's OK. You know, the post-al Force would have corrected us. I know, I know. I'm so sorry. That's a good catch. That's a good catch, no.

Amy:

So we're talking about 2015.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

Anyway. So, as I mentioned, you know, the storytelling was a little bit different, just because they didn't start, you know, with the letter Right, right, I loved it. I loved the congressional committee hearing and how each one of the core four had a section to talk about.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

How they went, you know Oliver to Shane, to Rita, to Norman.

Garry:

Yes, and Steve piped in a little bit.

Amy:

I really loved that. I loved that we got to see Steve Yep. You know he's the birthday card sender from Truth Be Told.

Garry:

Yep.

Amy:

Right and they kind of put that to bed. I like that. They wrap things up. There's no like that, we know. I mean, we know he's going to be in another one coming up, which I just talked about, but at least we know, you know, at least they kind of wrap that up Right A little bit. So I like that. Then, of course, you have the mystery of whether you know, lieutenant, is it Amidon, amidon?

Garry:

Amidon.

Amy:

Randy Lynn is still alive, and then the clue she gives to her possible rescue. All of that was so well done. And you know, you and I, we live in a military town, we live in an area. You've lived here your whole life. You know, I've lived here, you know, for over 25 years, so we've known many, many, many who have served, we've known people who are serving and we know people who have lost loved ones, especially in the war in Afghanistan.

Amy:

So this really hit close to home for us and there's similarities between you know some people that we know and their loved ones, and how they did not survive and it's just a little. Yeah, it was. It was very emotional. So, that was my first take. What about you?

Garry:

That was a big first take, sorry, sorry.

Amy:

I know this. Like I said, this would be like an hour long.

Garry:

I don't even know where to begin, because there was so many things going on through this throughout this movie, right, but on throughout this movie, right. But yet the director and the writer wove this thing perfectly together. Man, they did I mean. They did I just I mean you talk about being at the right place at the right time, because there's a lot of like symbolisms in here. Yes, it's funny how all the characters ended up at the hotel in DC right around the same time.

Amy:

So you're talking about the postables and Harper? Well, Steve was already there. Well, he.

Garry:

Shane reached out to him Right, so he ends up there.

Amy:

But Harper and Phoebe the grandpa and his granddaughter His daughter is the one who's missing Right.

Garry:

Right, and I just feel like.

Amy:

Well, oliver says there are no coincidences. Right, exactly.

Garry:

But just think. Well, oliver says there are no coincidences. Right, exactly. But just think about the different stories that were going on. You had Randy Lynn missing, you had Shane and Steve's thing going on, you had Shane and Oliver, you had Rita and the pageant, rita and Norman, and then you had the committee. So there was a lot of things going on at once there were. And man, I just, I really, really enjoyed this thing. So that's where I'm at.

Amy:

That's where you're at, I know it's. It's a lot to talk about there's. There are so many things going on and we'll probably get into it a little bit when we get into, like, favorite scenes and all that jazz, but there's so many things to talk about oh yeah, I mean, and I also want to talk about the rock the rock, yes, the symbolism of the rock, yes. Now, or you want to hold off. Is that like a scene? Is that a cheer? Is that? Where's that for you?

Garry:

let's we'll talk about it when it actually shows up in each when it shows up I think it shows up like four times okay, all right.

Amy:

Well, you can all right, yeah sounds good.

Garry:

I'll try to remember, all right let dive.

Amy:

You want to dive into favorite scenes? Yes, go, tell us, I would start out of the gate towards the beginning. It's not the very opening scene, but when the postables are walking down the halls of Congress and they're playing science, he'll deliver it I just love the slow-mo of that hallway which is so cool, so I that was one of my favorite scenes just that bit but what was funny is norman walks into the.

Garry:

Uh, there's a flagpole and norman walks into it, so they're all serious and cool and he walks into it and he's like oh, wait a minute, where'd you come from?

Amy:

flag so it was just a great way to start with them of course it starts off more serious in Afghanistan.

Garry:

So that was one of my favorites, yeah, when they were going to to the subcommittee meeting.

Amy:

Do you want me to do a couple?

Garry:

or how do you want to do a couple yeah?

Amy:

The next one would be. So they, you find out they're sitting in front of Congress right For a committee meeting. But then in the in one of the flashbacks in the DLO, it's Oliver and Shane and Oliver. Oliver has his color-coded folders for each person for their schedule. And it's just so him, because of course he does right, so he shows them to Shane and he kind of you know, is kind of like you know, hey, maybe you know. No, he asked her about her boyfriend. Is there a boyfriend?

Amy:

that you want to meet up with, you know, or something. So then he talks about how they're going to go to the postal museum and then she asks if she can add a stop in, and he's kind of like I've already done the schedule. Right you know he kind of is a little bit shocked. And then Norman comes in with the shades on and they're ready to go to DC and I just thought that whole scene worked. I, I loved that scene yeah, that was it.

Garry:

That was a really good scene.

Amy:

I had that down too did you really for one year? Yeah, yeah, that's so. Yeah, the same, we like it. Yeah, what about you?

Garry:

okay, one of mine was the the first scene, uh, with uh, randy lynn, when she's being captured the the lieutenant, she apparently is going to give birth or not? Her. Not her she's going to help give birth to Assad's daughters.

Amy:

Help the daughter give Right. He said help give birth. Well, yeah, you're worried Too much wine. Drink some more wine, I know, right, right.

Garry:

And I'm assuming they're in Afghanistan. Yeah, and their daughter has been in labor for 15 hours and this is the first scene where we see the rock. So she picks up a rock and she gives it to the daughter and asad looks at her because and is that his name asad.

Amy:

I think it's okay.

Garry:

Yeah, I missed that asad looks at her and she's like well, you know, this is one of the symbolisms. When you give a rock or a crystal to somebody, you know some of the things are grounding and stability, emotional strength, support and connection. So for me it felt like hold on to this rock. It's strength Whenever you feel pain.

Amy:

Just you know, just hold on to it. Yes.

Garry:

I'm also here, so you're safe, don't worry about it. And this is the conversation Assad has with Randy Lynn about. You don't have much time, but and you pointed this out to me he he sends the guy the guard off to get some stuff for the delivery and in it is a pen and paper and that's when she writes the letter.

Amy:

Right, she sees like the pen or whatever it is, and I didn't even notice that when you pointed that out, and she's kind of like huh, you know, and that's when, yeah, we don't see her write the letter, but, right, she kind of a light bulb goes off for her.

Garry:

Yeah so that's like the first time we see the rock that you're talking about, right right, yeah, the symbolism, yeah, and some of the other ones that I had was the ones that you pointed out, but I'll go over them. Go ahead and give a couple more. You want another one? Okay?

Amy:

I really liked the scene in Steve's office. So we find out that Steve is in a clandestine. Yes, his little office right so I just thought that all worked. So in the in the office you have, um, uh, shane, oliver and rita, right, and they're talking to steve, and they're talking about randy lynn, the missing inaction, and they're they're trying to convince him that they need to find her. I'm kind of fumbling through this so then he mentions oh and in her letter, and they're like letter, that's where they perk up.

Amy:

That's where they perk up right, there's a letter Like letter, there's a letter. So then Rita tries to get a look at the letter and he's like no, no, no, I. So then, you know, rita tries to get a look at the letter and he's like no, no, no, I mean, I just thought that whole scene, you know, works and he's like I can't show her the letter, she can't see it.

Amy:

And then you know, oliver says well, the letter technically is addressed to FEBB and we could say that that's Phoebe and that's her daughter. So it's technically doesn't belong to you, it belongs to the United States Post Office.

Garry:

I know that was so funny it is.

Amy:

And then you love the play here because the audience and Shane and Oliver know that Rita has a photographic memory.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

But Steve doesn't know Right, so just a quick glance for Rita is enough to learn what's in the letter.

Garry:

Isn't that crazy.

Amy:

I loved that whole. I thought that whole scene worked.

Garry:

Yeah, another one of my favorite scenes was when, rita, they were doing the rehearsal for the tap dance scene. Yes, and she is so off.

Amy:

Yes, I have this down. That's my next one. Yes, yes.

Garry:

And Norm being, oh, such a gentleman. When they stop, you know the choreographer is looking at Rita like what in the world. And then Norm goes. Well, you did great, because everybody else was off.

Amy:

Yeah, he says everyone else is out of step, but you, I thought that was so cute. Oh my gosh, that was so cute. And she's like oh, you know, she's just so.

Garry:

He's a man after my own heart.

Amy:

Yes, yes, yes, that was so nice.

Garry:

So that was another one of mine.

Amy:

Do you have? Another one For me. I would say the scene between Shane and Steve when they're outside. Steve is trying to convince Shane that he's now made. Dc his home and that's where he is all the time. And she says home is more than an address, it's a porch swing. Yes, and she goes on to other things.

Garry:

She says other things.

Amy:

But I thought, and he's like I'll buy you a porch swing, and she's like I already have one, I know, Like dude, and that was so. So she's like telling you without telling you that she's into Oliver, you know. And then is that, that's the scene where he comes out. Yes, Now did he see them kiss or not? I don't know.

Garry:

Well, the scene cuts so fast, we'll have to ask the postables.

Amy:

He's already through the door and probably 10 feet out of the door. Oh, so you don't think he walked out after the kiss?

Garry:

I don't know if he saw it but you just have to assume, maybe he did.

Amy:

Yeah, I don't know.

Garry:

But he took it like a man. Yeah, he took it like a champ.

Amy:

Yeah, if he did.

Garry:

Yeah, and I like that whole scene too, where they were supposed to have lunch together, all of them, but one by one they kept dropping off, so it just ended up being Norman and Oliver. And so Shane comes walking up and she's in this orange outfit and I was like googly eyes over and Shane's smiling, and he stands up, and then here comes Steve.

Amy:

Steve. That was when we first see Steve.

Garry:

That was before Picks her up give her a big hug and you see, oliver, he goes to sit down, but then he stands up again.

Amy:

And then he goes to sit down and he stands up again. It's like he doesn't know what to do. And that was before the scene I talked about, right? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, that was funny. When he stands, he sits.

Garry:

He stands, he's like he doesn't and I don't blame him. Yeah, I don't blame him man, you know. Yeah.

Amy:

That was a good scene, yeah, the whole. You know for me the whole Norman-Rita exchange during the Miss Special Delivery pageant where Norman has been trying to give her something, the entire movie, yes, the entire movie. And then we finally get to the talent part of the pageant, which is towards the end. And you know he finally gives her the gift and he's just so excited to give it to her. He finally thinks that she's going to be so happy and he's had like a chapter of her book published in the Postal.

Garry:

What was it? The Postal?

Amy:

The Postal Magazine, whatever, sorry, the name of it, is escaping me right now the Postal Living Quarterly the Postal.

Amy:

Living Quarterly, the Postal Living Quarterly, and he's so excited and she's like I can't recite it now because in the talent show you can't use anything that's published and paid, right. And she's like and now I'm published and paid and she's upset, but she's not. But she's Rita upset, you know like I like to call it. She's not like. I mean she's upset visibly and she doesn't know what she's going to do. And then she goes out on stage to help her friend Mindy, who is struggling a little bit, right.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

So she's only upset for a minute because she sees Mindy struggling and that's her she wants to help, she wants to go out, right, right, and so she goes. Oh, you know, I'll go first, while Mindy you know whatever. So she starts speaking to the crowd and she tells them what she was going to do. She was going to do a dramatic reading, but she can't. Yeah. And then, as she's telling the story about her story, right, she realizes it relates to.

Garry:

Norman Norman yeah.

Amy:

Norm you go, Norm Norman. Yeah, Norm you go. Norm Norman, Norman Norman. She realized that it relates to him. And then she's like you know, in my story, you know she's really in love with her. And then she's like, oh, and then you see the light bulb go off. And she turns off stage and she's like he's in love with her and he questions and he shakes his head.

Garry:

He's tearing up you know. So so well done, yeah, so well done.

Amy:

Well, it's funny because Ramon had told Norman we haven't even talked about Ramon. He's in my chair.

Garry:

Or told Norman that, rita, she wins. She's going to be off for a year shaking hands, meeting new people.

Amy:

Yeah, she'd have to do a lot of traveling.

Garry:

Yeah, he kind of put in norman's head that rita wasn't coming back. She was going to forget all about her that's so, that's why he printed out that, that one section I think it was chapter 14 of her book, because he didn't want her to forget about them right.

Amy:

Well, he says I don't want you to forget that you're a writer right postable, and you know it was so sweet.

Garry:

And then that's when Rita. Chapter 14 was about the character Norman. The character in the book gives her character a steed and knowing that, no matter where she went, that steed would always find its way back home Right and she says something like I.

Amy:

Why mystical? Norman would give her a steed right, and then that's when she.

Garry:

That's when she realizes, yeah, that he's in love with her, and then she says it out loud yeah.

Amy:

Piece of writing it was so, so good, like when norman says are we having our first fight, you know? Because he's just so. Oh my gosh, do you have any other scenes listed? What you got.

Garry:

I have a couple more. Can we say something about Mindy's pipes?

Amy:

Yeah, oh, the way she said that was my next. That was my next favorite scene.

Garry:

Oh man.

Amy:

So she sings it beautifully.

Garry:

Right and first of all, perfect song, perfect title.

Amy:

The lyrics were absolute perfection for this. I mean, it was just perfect for the movie, for that moment, for what the postables are doing, just all of it. Perfect, perfect, perfect. If you don't know the lyrics to that song, go look it up.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

Because it is. I mean, I don't even know what to say about it. And then so she's singing, singing, and then you have scenes back and forth between her singing, you see Shane and Oliver crying right because they don't know if a rescue was happening or not right of the lieutenant they've been, they've given all the information to the committee by that point, and the committee has to make a decision and they don't. And that, well, they know at that point that the rescue is going up.

Amy:

They don't know right if she's alive or not, and so the song is so emotional I guess, right and so, and so they're going back, and then they're also showing afghanistan scenes, right?

Garry:

so I mean the weaving of that the lyrics and the scenes that go along. Yes, it's just, it's so good.

Amy:

Oh, it's freaking brilliant man. Oh my gosh, I know we're tearing up and goosebumps and all the things in that scene.

Garry:

I know and then she hits that last note, yes, and holds it.

Amy:

Yeah.

Garry:

And then when she stops, the look on Ramon's face was like Even he was he was.

Amy:

Yes, he was, and he was kind of tearing, I mean, it was so moving, so, so it was crazy yeah, but wait, the movie's not over yet. After you're emotionally crushed, I know, I know all right, so what else you got? Um any more favorite scenes I do.

Garry:

Uh, do you want to talk about? Well, you go ahead, all right, because I um, I have okay, so then.

Amy:

So then, har, harper and Phoebe, they go. Is it the next day, maybe the next morning? I?

Garry:

think it's the same day?

Amy:

I'm not sure, but anyway. So we see Harper and Phoebe are going to the airport and they don't know why. And Steve is there, the postables are there, right, right, they're all there, and Harper, because they don't want to tell Harper and Phoebe anything. They didn't want to give them false hope.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

Right. So they say they're there to fly on the what do they call? It, the jet, the jet or whatever to give them a chance to fly on the jet and then-.

Garry:

That's when Steve comes up. That's when Steve right and he's talking to Harper and Phoebe and he's like you know, look what, the Army Rangers are flying around the country in now and then out comes who, who, the mom?

Amy:

The mom You're like tearing up, I can't, I know I can't, I know you can't talk about it. Yeah, so then we see Randy Lynn. She comes walking.

Garry:

He's like tearing up. I wish we had video he's tearing up, yeah.

Amy:

So she comes out of the plane, she comes down and then the daughter Phoebe, goes up to her and that little actress I'm telling you the tears. That was like I don't know how she did that in that moment. It was so good.

Garry:

I mean it had been the actress who plays the lieutenant's daughter goes up and she's just crying and crying and oh, it's so emotional. And it was like real.

Amy:

And then you see For real, for real.

Garry:

You see Shane and Oliver, they're all hugging and kind of tearing up.

Amy:

And you see.

Garry:

Rita and Norman hugging and tearing up. They hug and she lets go of the rock. She's hugging Phoebe, she's hugging her grandfather, and that's the last time you see the rock and it's like she lets the rock go because now she really has her rock, which is her family, and I thought that was really really good.

Amy:

Powerful, really super powerful. I thought that was really really good. Powerful, really super powerful. And I guess we didn't talk about when she's escaping Right During the song. Yeah, I forgot to bring, or, yeah, that's another time. You wanted to mention the rock.

Garry:

Well, saad gives her the rock before he tells her I can't go any further with you. You know, wait here two days. If I don't show up you have to walk. And one night she squeezes the rock. And again, the symbolism of all this, the emotional strength. She's not giving up, she's going to keep going. And you know, she falls down the hill, she hurts her legs, she bandages up and she just keeps on going. You know she's got the strength.

Amy:

And it's for a couple days and it's for a couple days, like a couple days and nights.

Garry:

She's by herself and you know they show her squeezing the rock, and that was the third time that we see the rock and I found it pretty cool. They call her Soul Sister.

Amy:

Soul Sister. Yes, sister, soul sister. Yes, that was her code name, right, that's their code name for her. Yes, I thought that was cool.

Garry:

Yes, scene when she sees those helicopters coming over the mountains and they're playing america, the beautiful yes, right, oh, because she's saying that to her daughter. I mean, there's so many things we could talk about yes, I mean I couldn't. I know I know so, but you're right, that was. Was there anything else? Did you? You have any?

Amy:

more, just the last scene. They're headed to the airport and Oliver says we have an extra stop. We have, yes, and then they go to. We didn't even talk about Shane's house. She went to see her house in DC that she grew up in and they had torn it down. It wasn't there anymore, right. And that was emotional for Shane.

Garry:

Mm-hmm.

Amy:

Shane. That was at the very beginning of the movie and then at the end. Oliver has this inheritance from his biological father and he has created a foundation and he surprises Shane with the McInerney home for retired postal workers and she's like it'll be a small house and he's like we can make it bigger can make it bigger and then he says um, does he say something about a porch and a swing?

Garry:

yes, like doesn't he say something? It'll have a porch in a swing.

Amy:

It'll have a porch in a swing and I was like oh, and then norman goes.

Garry:

Do we all have to move here with his crazy expressions? I love him so much?

Amy:

and then he says can I have a workshop or a laboratory here?

Garry:

and he says something about some kind of atom smasher thing, and she's like no, norman, you can't have that.

Amy:

And Shane is just she's just really, really touched and it was just a really great last scene, right. And then just wrapped it all up.

Garry:

And what put the cherry on top of that one is Oliver pulling out the rose.

Amy:

Yes.

Garry:

Because she had told him when they first got there at the beginning of the movie that her mom cut the last rose of summer right and kept it fresh and then planted it for the first rose of summer, and he did the exact same thing for her, so she was like, like her heart. Yeah is the man yeah, and I don't know, it was just brilliantly written.

Amy:

It really really was. It really really was, I mean, we could talk about every scene in detail. All right, Biggest cheers.

Garry:

I just love how Oliver gives those pep talks to.

Amy:

Norm.

Garry:

Yes, I have that as one of my cheers, not just Norm, but to the whole crew. He just picks them up, yes, and I mean he's got these little Like one-lin up. Yes, and I mean he's got these little like one liners. And you know, god brought us here to do a lot of little things, yes, or we went through a lot of little things to get here. It's not just about the big picture, and when Norm was talking about you know why do we care about the little umbrellas and the drinks or the little, you know, animals in the drinks, and Oliver was pretty much like we're not forgetting the big picture, but it's the little ones that keep us going.

Amy:

Those are the two exact things that I have as my cheer. I was saying we need a section of Oliver quotes.

Garry:

We do Quotes of wisdom. You know what we're going to start doing that.

Amy:

Because the quote that you're talking about was something like because Norman is like oh, everything else is so trivial, we need to get you know the lieutenant home like everything else seems so trivial, and that's when Oliver says that the missed delivery pageant is perhaps not an event of great import to the world at large, but the world is complicated and so much of it can be ugly. That's why it is beautiful, and that's why what is beautiful and gentle is worth fighting to preserve, yes, and also why we honor those who fight. And that's so significant because you do feel like, oh, I shouldn't be enjoying this, but you should, but you should be.

Amy:

It's okay if other stuff is going on in the world or in your life, or it's okay to enjoy the smaller moments, the things that seem trivial. I mean, yeah, and the big picture, you know, yeah, but you, you have to enjoy it. And he also says you know, and that's why we honor those who fight, that's how we honor those who fight is enjoying our freedom, enjoying the special things, enjoying the happy moments. And then the other quote that you were talking about is, he said to Shane I think we were called to be a part of a lot of little miracles that had to happen to get this far.

Amy:

Yes, that's what you know yeah, I wrote those down as my true.

Garry:

Yeah, we're on the same.

Amy:

We're on the same page, but we need a section that's like all of our quotes and then our podcast will be two hours long.

Garry:

I know, I know it's hard, but no, I had that same thing. I know I know it's hard, but no.

Amy:

I had that same thing.

Garry:

So did you have any other?

Amy:

cheers, cheers. We've already talked about it the storytelling, the way each one of the postables has a turn in the hearing. Yes, you know, oliver starts, he's followed by Shane, and they each give their part of the story, then Rita, then Norman. Right you know each part of their story.

Amy:

I know each part of their story and I won't go into detail because I know we're Right. I loved the running parallel storylines of Norma and Rita and Shane and Oliver. Yes, because, like you said, they were supposed to all have lunch together and then things happen and they don't.

Garry:

Mm-hmm.

Amy:

And Norman and Rita are supposed to go to dinner together and Shane and Oliver, separately, are supposed to go to dinner together and that doesn't happen yeah. You know, and they both, you know, like Norman's a little jealous of Ramon.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

And Oliver's a little jealous of Steve. Yeah, you know, it was like a parallel universe, and that's what's so brilliant about this. Yes, yes, what about you? Any other?

Garry:

I'm just glad. So they closed two chapters. So they close two chapters. So they close Shane and Steve. We think, we think we don't. We haven't seen the rest of them.

Amy:

Right, right, but it's a pretty good.

Garry:

You get an indication of where Shane's mind is, and then Oliver got to have closure by going over to the postal museum at the Pony Express. Oh, yes, yes, when his ex-wife actually left him Right, and that's a story where Harper met up with him and is like what are you doing? And then he tells him the story about Randy Lynn falling off the bed. Yes, and she couldn't explain to her grandpa or her dad what happened, so she went on the bed and fell off again.

Amy:

Fell off again.

Garry:

Which is ironic, because she fell out of the helicopter.

Amy:

So that's kind of a Well, yeah, and he said, but Harper says that she always wanted to go back to the place and figure it out.

Garry:

Right why it happened Right.

Amy:

She wanted to make sense of it. Yes, yes, so that was.

Garry:

And.

Amy:

But yes, it was part of the clue, Right that yeah.

Garry:

Which that whole letter was as a clue.

Amy:

I had Ramon as a reporter. We could just leave it at that and everybody just having him back was great.

Garry:

Another job.

Amy:

Yeah, yeah. And then you know the cheers to the clues.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

And you sort of you get them throughout the movie. You don't know what's in the letter yet, but you get them throughout the movie. And then the piecing of them together. Like you mentioned, the four posters. I don't think I have something about like. At first they think it's something about the 4th of July, something about four posters, grim feet and like a Bible verse.

Amy:

Right so they're trying to piece all that together and, like you said, just how? Then you find out. The four poster means the four poster bed. She fell off of it. That's where she fell out of the helicopter.

Garry:

Right 4th of July actually referred to the dog's liberty right and the dog's birthday, which was the 21st.

Amy:

So that was the day she was going to escape right. Yes, Right, so even I, yeah, if we get these wrong too and that was sort of Norman's part he pieced all the clues together in that committee meeting, right? So then, what are some of the other ones? The Ramadan is observed with prayer, acts of charity and fasting, so he is suggesting that she's choosing to escape. Escape on the day of fasting right the last day the last day, the last day around on fasting and that the four post was where she had been captured.

Garry:

Yes and yeah.

Amy:

So the four posts because she fell off the bed right and then fell yeah, we just and she fell out of the hell.

Garry:

Yeah, so, and then um the grim feet.

Amy:

Yes, that pilgrim feet, which is actually part of america, the beautiful which I did not know me either I don't know that whole song, but boy and who sang that? Was that josh groban. I meant to look that up. I don't who sang the rendition.

Garry:

So there were beautiful songs in this one too, yes.

Amy:

Good grief. Do you have any more cheers?

Garry:

No, let me see, but I do have.

Amy:

The whole thing is a cheer.

Garry:

Yeah, well, I do have a jeer. Okay, what's your jeer? I just feel, like that whole committee, how they look down on the postables especially when she was like okay, task force DLO, is it the CIA, fbi or NSS? And Oliver goes USPS.

Amy:

USPS. Yeah, she's like what she goes.

Garry:

He's like we're with the post office. Well, yeah, that was. And the look on her face was like are you serious?

Amy:

What are you doing here? What are you doing here? Why do you even care about?

Garry:

this and my other thing is I don't like how Steve thought he could just go up there and kiss.

Amy:

Shane, you know what I mean. Oh okay, you just got a little problem with that. Steve will take a little liberty with that, huh.

Garry:

There could have been something with him and you know, yeah, but it wasn't really. I don't disagree with that.

Amy:

I don't disagree with a jeer, but I just that's.

Garry:

If it was a jeer, that would have been a jeer.

Amy:

That would have been your jeer.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

Yeah, Mine would have been the committee chairwoman asking why. Why would the lieutenant send a letter in code?

Garry:

Yeah, encrypted.

Amy:

Encrypted? Yeah Like. Give clues. Yeah Like. Why would she do hello? Like what do you mean? Why would she do that? So that she wouldn't get captured?

Garry:

Or the people that were helping her wouldn't get, wouldn't get that trouble.

Amy:

And I mean, I just thought I was like OK, that probably. I mean I don't know what somebody.

Garry:

Come on, you're a politician. You should know Well, well, maybe that's why politicians aren't. You know, and didn't the senator say this is why? And yes, yeah, yes, the one senator from illinois or whatever, she didn't want to get anybody else in trouble. Yeah, especially aside.

Amy:

So yeah, so that was it for me. Yeah, I mean, I agree, I think I mean there's a. You know we could go over more quotes and you know when oliver's like the few, the proud, proud, the postables.

Garry:

Oh, that was good.

Amy:

Doesn't he say something about? I still stand by like post office is the best way to. He says something to Steve about that?

Garry:

Yeah, because who was it that said oh, they have postal service in Afghanistan.

Amy:

And then Oliver was like yeah, was as a matter of fact, they have one of the, the better, the best ones, right, yeah, and it's routed out of cabal or something I don't know.

Garry:

And that's when he said I still stand by. This is the best way this is the but.

Amy:

Yeah, I've always maintained that mail is still the gold standard of human communication. That's what I knew I'd find it eventually. Yes, I still maintain that mail is the gold standard. Oh gosh, Okay.

Garry:

So, out of five quarks, what would you give this one?

Amy:

Ten. I'm not talking about how many pages you printed out.

Garry:

I'm talking about quarks.

Amy:

How many pages of notes did you have? One hundred, one hundred.

Garry:

There was a lot. There was a lot.

Amy:

I would definitely give it a five Me too. I mean I would be shocked if I gave any Science Zeal delivered movie less than a five and we're trying to keep five exclusive. Yes, but I can't help it because the story is so intricate, yes, and so intertwined with their lives and the letter, and this one especially, was like a two-parter kind of you know. Yeah, so I would give it a five. How about you?

Garry:

I'm definitely giving it a five Word. I just I mean the emotions, the goosebumps, the tears throughout the whole show. Yes and again, oliver, actually all the cast members they can just make you cry with just the look.

Amy:

And Oliver was so great in this one too, and and Norman, with their like anger but not saying anything, their face showed it and then they're softening. And then Oliver was so proud when he did the for Shane, the house. You know that. So, yeah, it's all good, it's all, it's all really good.

Garry:

So is that a wrap? That is a wrap. Well, thanks's all good. It's all really good Tearjerker. So is that a wrap? That is a wrap. Well, thanks for tuning in. Be sure to follow the podcast wherever you listen so you don't miss one. Also, check out us Check out us.

Garry:

Check us out on social media or send us an email to forthewineitsromcomtime at gmailcom. We'd love to hear from you. Yeah, drop us a line, let us know what you think. Talk to us on social media and we'll chat back. And if we miss something in this one, you know just it's not on purpose I have.

Amy:

I have a lot of pages of notes.

Garry:

I can't just do them all and, like we said, this thing would be over an hour long, yeah, so all.

Amy:

Right until next time, fill up your glasses and push play. Thanks for listening cheers, cheers.