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Hallmark's The Groomsmen: Second Chances

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On this episode of Pour The Wine, It’s Rom-Com Time, Garry and Amy are packing their bags for Greece with Danny, Pete, and Jackson! Hallmark’s The Groomsmen: Second Chances serves up a gorgeous Mediterranean backdrop, a destination wedding, and one very complicated secret: Danny’s in love with his best friend Zack, the groom. Cue the laughter, longing, and all the “will he finally say it?” moments. This rom-com reminds us that love isn’t just about timing, it’s about bravery, the kind that makes you risk it all. So grab a glass of wine and get ready for romance, courage, laughter, and a second chance worth swooning over.

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Amy:

Welcome to Pour the Wine. It's rom-com time where we'll sip some wine and review all things rom-com on the Hallmark Channel. I'm Amy.

Garry:

And I'm Gary.

Amy:

And I'm Aporin, you're Aporin, the cab.

Garry:

Yes, I am.

Amy:

Today we're going to be reviewing the Groomsmen's Second Chances. It aired on the Hallmark Channel on Saturday, september 13th 2025. But it originally aired on Hallmark Plus on October 24th 2024. It is streaming right now, still on Hallmark Plus. Woo-hoo, woo-hoo.

Garry:

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Amy:

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Garry:

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Amy:

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Garry:

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Amy:

Send us an email at pourthewineitsromcomtime at gmailcom and let us know what you think of the Groomsmen movie so far or maybe you watched all three last fall on Hallmark Plus, or just send us an email about anything Hallmark related. We'd love to hear from you.

Garry:

We sure would. Yes, yes, and we talk about it on the podcast.

Amy:

Yes, we will. We'd love to hear from you. We sure would. Yes, and we talk about it on the podcast?

Garry:

Yes, we will, we might. So you want to tell us who's in this one.

Amy:

Well, most of the crew from First Look returns in this movie, in Second Chances, so we won't rehash all of those actors and their work, but if you would like to hear more detail, you can go and listen to our review of first look. Yes, because we go into detail towards the beginning of that podcast but. I will talk about a few new actors that we saw in this yeah, we did get in this movie, yeah we had a few adam rice. Charles plays nolan. He has four acting and this is his only Hallmark work.

Garry:

Oh, wow.

Amy:

Yeah, Sue Kelvin plays Ophelia. She is actually from the UK so she had a lot of UK work on her IMDb, but this is also her Hallmark premiere.

Garry:

That's awesome.

Amy:

Andreas Karras. Hopefully I'm pronouncing his last name correctly. He plays Konstantinos For Hallmark. He was in Love's Greek to Me and the Wedding Veil Journey.

Garry:

Oh wow, Awesomeness.

Amy:

Yeah.

Garry:

And that's it. That's it for the new ones.

Amy:

Well, that's it for the new yeah, the new faces that we saw in this film.

Garry:

All right. Well, the Groomsmen Second Chances was directed by Ron Oliver. Ron has nearly 100 directing credits and has directed a ton of Hallmark movies, including all three groomsmen's movie To Barcelona With Love, to Barcelona Forever, which we loved.

Amy:

Which we really loved. Oh, we loved both of those, the.

Garry:

Wedding Veil Journey. A Timeless Christmas and Christmas Everlasting.

Amy:

Ooh, a Timeless Christmas. That's the one with the clock right.

Garry:

Right, I believe so.

Amy:

Aaron Cahill's, like the I don't want to say host, but like a tour guide of the house.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

Right, and then okay, yeah, yeah, yes, I think it's Peavy, Ryan Peavy.

Garry:

The story was written by Rick Garman. He has written a ton of Hallmark movies, including First Look, the Cherry Lane films, falling Together, groundswell, a Shoe Addict's Christmas and Frozen in Love.

Amy:

A Shoe Addict's Christmas was cute too.

Garry:

That's an interesting name.

Amy:

Candace Cameron remember. Ah Bailey.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

I think Jean Smart's in that one too.

Garry:

Oh, jean Smart, or she?

Amy:

works at the department store. Right yeah, right, okay, I think.

Garry:

On IMDb. Greg Baldwin and Jonathan Bennett are credited with creating the characters.

Amy:

That's awesome. That is awesome they're some good characters. Yeah, they're really good characters.

Garry:

Greg is credited with writing First Look and Last Dance in this series. He also wrote the Holiday Sitter and Wedding of a Lifetime, both of which star Jonathan Bennett.

Amy:

Aw, they must be friends. Huh, I think so. Yes, that's cool, though. That is cool.

Garry:

Help each other out. Yeah, that's what I'm about. Hey, and Jonathan, with a focus here on his writing. Jonathan has four credits, all Hallmark. He wrote First Look and Last Dance and, as previously mentioned, gets credit in this one for creating the characters. He also co-wrote the Holiday Sitter with Greg.

Amy:

With Greg. Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Garry:

It is Good for them.

Amy:

I saw their names I think I should have looked that up at the beginning as producers too. Yeah, I think I saw Jonathan Bennett's name, or like co-producer, right right and Tyler Hines. I think that's great when they get involved in all aspects of it. Yeah, you know, if it's your creation.

Garry:

Well, it also makes it more realistic the acting, because they're so comfortable around each other that it just oh, you mean because they work together, right. And they all know each other.

Amy:

Yeah, yeah, the friendship, the true friendship, really comes across on screen.

Garry:

Yeah really comes across on screen.

Amy:

Yeah, it does. Yeah, I agree.

Garry:

All right, so is it time to drop this? No.

Amy:

It is time Danny finds the courage to admit his romantic feelings for his best friend when he is asked to be the best man at his wedding in Greece. That kind of gives it away, doesn't it? Yeah, it does oh man, it gives it away a little bit Spoiler alert.

Garry:

Well, it's that time in the podcast where we tell you, if you have not seen this particular movie, stop this podcast, go watch it, the movie come back yes and guess what?

Amy:

listen, tell us what you think yes because we will drop spoilers pause here, play to the movie and then come back and push play, or finish listening to this podcast and then go watch the movie because you're so intrigued.

Garry:

That's right.

Amy:

That's right.

Garry:

That's right, because we break it down people, we break it down.

Amy:

Well, yeah, we don't recap it, but we do do a review, all right, so what was your first take? On this my first take. Oh gosh, I just want to start with Jonathan Bennett, because he just freaking owned this movie. He sure as hell did I thought you were going to go somewhere?

Garry:

else with that. No, no, no, I was going to go, he sure as haul did.

Amy:

Haul, did you get it?

Garry:

Yes, yes.

Amy:

He just, you know, we've known he can bring the quirky, the funny, and you know, and we've seen him in some not serious roles.

Amy:

But he you know tones it down for the series, but he really brings it all in this movie, like he can do the over-the-top humor. But man, those serious moments in this one when he's tearing up, and really he just really brings it in this film and I just so I thought it was just fantastic. I mean I really enjoyed the location, the blending of the humor and the serious moments. I mean it just totally worked for me.

Garry:

It sure did. The film did. Yeah, I agree with you 100%. What was your first take? I too thought Jonathan brought it, Because I always I look at him as a kind of a comedic actor, but those serious parts I teared up. Yes, I know, I didn't even use the excuse that something was in my eye. I mean, he brought it Kudos to him, man, because that's a true actor right there.

Amy:

Yeah, he really really did, and just yes, all the feels in this one.

Garry:

But I do like me a destination wedding.

Amy:

I know, and Greece, that's one of the good spots right, Right, right Beautiful scenery yes, gosh.

Garry:

Man, I just couldn't believe it. I love the water.

Amy:

I? Oh it was beautiful. Yes, man, I just couldn't believe it. I love the water. I love all the houses and stuff on the Well. It's like the white against the blue water.

Garry:

Just beautiful scenes in this film and you know the chemistry between Danny and Zach I mean Danny.

Amy:

Oh, yes, yes, yes, I had to think for a minute.

Garry:

I thought you were going between him and the friends, but no, you're right, you're right. The chemistry was really there between the two of them.

Amy:

It was very, very evident, and they had so many palpable moments throughout it, which I thought was great and we can talk about it. The same-sex couple, I mean we don't see that that frequently on Hallmark or in general.

Garry:

Really, I mean it's more I guess in TV shows Not being the focal point of it all, right TV did.

Amy:

I say TV shoes. I don't know what I just said. I've had one sip of wine. I don't know what I just said. Sure, you did TV shows, we're seeing it and of course you know some movies. But like any other romantic film right or rom-com right and that's the way it felt. It didn't seem different right you know, although it was representative and I I get that, but it was. That's how well done it was I mean love is love, is love right correct, you're attracted to who you're attracted to who you're attracted to.

Garry:

who you're attracted to the heart loves who the heart loves.

Amy:

Right, right, and I just so I thought it was, I thought it was great.

Garry:

Yeah, and who doesn't like a good baseball? You know?

Amy:

Analogy movie film where are?

Garry:

you going with that I?

Amy:

wish we had video, because your hands were like do you know what I'm saying.

Garry:

You're moving your hands, like everybody can see what I'm doing.

Amy:

I've done that too. It's probably a good thing that you don't. I've done that too, though.

Garry:

But I just love the way Danny brought him. It was pretty funny. And last, I just have to say Tyler Hines, oh, boy. Tyler Hines.

Amy:

Yes.

Garry:

I believe would play a good my gosh. Are we going?

Amy:

to say that, not that I don't think you're right.

Garry:

Can you imagine him? Bond, james Bond, yeah, but they would have to Hallmarkify it.

Amy:

Like it has to be a Hallmark version of James Bond, where he's cool and serious and then you know dry sense of humor, right right, but solves a mystery. Yeah, that's what we need from him.

Garry:

Can you imagine a bond wearing some?

Amy:

rings. All we got to come up with a different name, like it's the james bond of hallmark, but I don't know what the name could be. It could be any name hallmark come up with it, come up with a story. This would be great. It would be really good.

Garry:

I think it would be so fun to do yes throw in um uh, andrew walker and man, you got a great oh boy, okay yeah come on all those guys together?

Amy:

what about paul campbell? Are you leaving him out?

Garry:

no, I'm talking, I said all those guys. I think it would be a really kind of cool movie yeah, yeah, all right for it. Enough of that, okay, okay let's move on to favorite scenes all right, what you got, you go first. Favorite scene um number one. I just like the batting cage scenes. Yeah, you know it's kind of. Everybody has an outlet to release stress, yes, and I think the batting cage is probably one of the better ones.

Amy:

Yeah.

Garry:

And when Jonathan or Danny is in the cage and he's trying to convince himself that, you know, it's not a subconscious thing that he's friends with Zach, he doesn't have these feelings.

Amy:

Yeah, what is he saying?

Garry:

as he's like swinging. He's talking about we are friends, not sub. What does he say? Not subconscious, subconscious, but we are fine. Yeah, and he's swinging and he's missing or he's hitting. Oh God, I just love this. He was hitting too, I think one of them. He hit. Yeah, he was hitting. Yeah, I'm impressed, man. And.

Amy:

I wonder if Jonathan Bennett is a big baseball fan Like I should have. I meant to look that up just to see if he is like a baseball.

Garry:

Right Fanatic.

Amy:

Fanatic, or played when he was younger, or you know. He looks like he can hit a ball. I'm telling you yeah yeah.

Garry:

So what about you? What's one of yours?

Amy:

I like Out of the Gate. You know we have this runaway bride, although she's probably not running away. She wants to get married because she has said that. So we have it again at the beginning. And you know, the groomsmen show up at the bar and they want to go in, but the bar, the owner of the bar, is like you know, she's not here, you can't come in.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

And then we hear each of them speak and it sounds like each of them but it sure doesn't look like that. It does not. From behind, I'm like it's got to be. They're kids and we have not watched the third one yet.

Garry:

No, we of them.

Amy:

Yeah, well, we should get into that later.

Garry:

Okay who.

Amy:

I think one of them is, and then the other two, and then who the bride is.

Garry:

Yeah, we can do that.

Amy:

Which we kind of get maybe some hints, maybe we're totally off base, I don't know. Yeah, but anyway, that's still one of my favorite scenes. You have this romance, you have this friendship story, but then you also have this sort of mystery that you are trying to figure out, so it's really cool.

Garry:

Right, I'm just really digging it. But it'd be interesting to see how far in the future this is.

Amy:

Yeah.

Garry:

So another one of mine was oh right when the runaway bride. Yeah, another one of mine is when Zach tells Hannahannah uh, danny's sister that nolan and and he had broken up and and she was all like, oh, you don't have to worry, I won't say a thing. And then the next scene they're in at hannah's and or not chelsea, chelsea and pete's wedding and they're dancing and she's sitting there telling danny everything right about she's saying a thing.

Amy:

Yeah, she said she wouldn't say a thing she's saying a. Thing but it's like what?

Garry:

a week or two, or it was like a week later right she says he told me last week yeah, I just thought that was cute that was cute.

Amy:

That was cute. I really liked the dancing scenes between danny and zach. So you know, towards the beginning, of course Zach gets invited to Hannah's wedding because Danny's date. Did they break up, or he? Yeah?

Garry:

yeah, didn't work out.

Amy:

Right. So that's how Zach ends up there, you know. And then so we're at Hannah's wedding. We see some different angles at Hannah's wedding, and we can see Pete and Chelsea dancing In the hallway Behind like well, behind Zach and Danny. I just thought that was really cool. Yeah, me too, and then I just like the continuity. We got some time framing some continuity of things, which I thought was really, really great. And then you know again, at the wedding at Chelsea and Pete's wedding.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

Danny and Zach dance again, right, so I just thought that that was. And that's when Danny finds out that Zach asked Nolan to dance. To marry him and they have sort of this serious moment. But the way they're looking at each other is just oh no, no, no wait, I'm sorry. He tells them that's why they broke up.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

Right, because Danny tells, or Zach tells Danny that he and Nolan have broken up because he asked Nolan to marry him.

Garry:

And he said no, right, right.

Amy:

And then I liked when Danny said to Zach sometimes you pull back when you're with him. And he said no, right, right. And then, and then I I liked when Danny said to Zach, sometimes you pull back when you're with him, you know, and Zach's kind of like, what do you mean? And he's like, you know, you're, you laugh less when you're with him. And laughter was a big deal to Danny, which you know, I'll talk about a little bit later. But, um, I just thought it was a pretty intimate. That was one of the intimate moments between the two of them and the way they're looking at each other. I just thought it was. I thought it was great. Even though they're discussing the fact that he wants to marry someone else, there's still that chemistry in that moment.

Garry:

Yeah, I agree with you. So, let's just talk about and Alexander Lincoln.

Amy:

Yes, zach yes.

Garry:

That dude can talk with his eyes. Yes, he was really really good, I think he's going to be a big addition to Hallmark's men yeah. I mean, he really played that part well he did With Jonathan. So another one of mine was when I guess it was a bachelor party, I don't know when they went to the rock climbing.

Amy:

Yes, I have that as one of my two. Well, that was supposed to be the bachelor party. Right, right, right, right. And.

Garry:

I thought it was so funny because Danny, just he knew that Nolan was afraid of heights. Yep, yep and you could see, Zach was like are you doing this on purpose? And then Pete comes to. Well, I don't know, zach was kind of like I don't know if he just was playing dumb or you know, I couldn't really tell Well, when they had started climbing and they came to a point where they stopped.

Amy:

Danny and Zach.

Garry:

Danny and Zach. Zach had said no, come on. Did you really forget that?

Amy:

Oh, yes, he did, he has a fear of heights.

Garry:

Look at you and then Danny was getting ready to, you know, confess his love for Zach.

Amy:

when again Nolan comes up the side and he's like hey, and Danny's like I thought you were afraid of heights. I guess it's cured. I guess it's cured.

Garry:

And then Danny ends up being the last one to make it to the top and he buys the first drinks.

Amy:

right, right, well, danny had started to say well, as a matter of fact, I didn't. I wanted a chance to talk to you. Yeah, it's like just ask him. I know, Just ask.

Garry:

And throughout the movie it was always like that. It was like he was getting ready to confess his love for him. Yeah, and then Nolan would pop up out of nowhere.

Amy:

Out of nowhere.

Garry:

Well, yeah, so poor, poor Danny.

Amy:

I liked all the FaceTime and in-person moments between the three friends.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

They just all were so great Like when they're poolside and they're in the loungers and they have their shades on and, you know, Danny finally admits to them that he has feelings for Zach, which of course they have known and tried to encourage him. You know to tell him and you know Danny's like I'm scared to tell him. So they're convincing him. You need to talk to Zach. You need to talk to Zach. You know you need to let him know before it's too late.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

You know, and so I just thought I just love those scenes, right. So they're in the lounge chairs. And then another FaceTime where I think, danny, it's when they're already in Greece, right, and the three of them are talking and Pete asked Danny, like you know, do you have your spreadsheet? Because Danny's planning the wedding? Oh, yes, you know, danny says what spreadsheet and Jackson's, like you, happy, pete's going to have to, he's going to have to go lay down now, you know, because Pete is so organized and by you know, spreadsheets, spreadsheets, spreadsheets. And so I just thought and Danny is a character just kind of fly by the seat of his pants, he doesn't plan anything.

Garry:

So I thought that that was really cute and really funny, which is interesting for being somebody that has a manager. You know, oh right, right, right.

Amy:

And then that's when they ask him are you okay? And he's like yeah, I'm fine, I'm great, everything's fine. You know, everything's fine.

Garry:

The world's on fire, but it's fine although he does get his spreadsheet well eventually. Yeah, yeah, so pete calls.

Amy:

Uh, you know the the scene where pete calls danny when danny's in greece and they're like have you gotten into trouble today yet? And he's like not yet, not yet, or whatever. And then they show up and Pete and Jackson and Betty are there, and then the three of them start talking over drinks. And now you're at the point where Zach is getting married and Danny hasn't told him how he felt about him.

Amy:

And now it's too late, right Right. So he's sitting there contemplating. He's like what if I, if I could just? And they're like no, what if I no?

Garry:

Right, right Maybe.

Amy:

I could. Just they're like, no, they're trying to keep him. You know, which I thought is great as friends, and it of course reminded me of the Uncle Buck scene. You know that's true. Where John Candy is talking to his girlfriend on the phone and he's trying to tell her he can't show up for the job and he does that. What if I could have just you know, it was sort of like that scene. I thought that that was really cute. And then, of course, the bar scene. You know it's Danny Pete and Jackson Jackson.

Amy:

Jackson yeah Right, and Danny's upset. He says he doesn't want to talk about it. Then Jackson sits down. He doesn't want to talk about what's going on with him, you know. And then, I think, pete comes up.

Garry:

Does he come up at that point?

Amy:

Right. And then Danny's like I'm going to talk about just this one thing, you know. And then they're like, oh, thank God, because they want somebody to break the ice, right. And then they're like, oh, thank God, because they want somebody to break the ice. And then that's when what Danny says that they almost kissed. He and Zach almost kissed. And they're like what, yeah?

Garry:

Because, up to that point, they were trying to keep him from telling Zach and ruining the wedding.

Amy:

Right right, because it was too late, because Zach had already proposed to someone else. Well, they had tried to convince him to do it beforehand.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

And then he did. And they kept saying and that's one of my cheers too, is just that I know we're getting ahead, but that they were trying say what you feel, even if you get rejected. At least you put it out there, you know.

Garry:

Right. You know, yeah, I agree 100%.

Amy:

And then you know, Pete explains that he spent his life not taking chances. And they're saying that the almost kiss changes things, because Zach, now they realize Zach probably has feelings for Danny. And that there's something there that he might be able to capture, right, if he doesn't wait any longer. Yeah, right.

Garry:

I agree. And that's when we find out that pete had moved to bulgaria yeah, yeah, and we get a little hint of from the narrator um, jackson's going to be doing too right, he talks about how this is a father-daughter trip, because she's now moving to italy with her mom. With her, her mother, and Pete and Danny were like what.

Amy:

What she's moving to Italy, which is where the next movie is going to be Right? Yeah, I think.

Garry:

Can we just take a minute and talk about Jackson's inability to work out?

Amy:

Yes, there's yet another. Was there just one in this?

Garry:

one. Yes, he's sitting on where the dumbbells are.

Amy:

Yes, I have that down as a cheer. Yet another scene where he's eating.

Garry:

Yes, in the gym, and he is just so and he makes it look so cool.

Amy:

Yeah, and hence the you know.

Garry:

So funny, james Bond so funny, but yeah it was funny.

Amy:

Another scene and Danny and Pete are working out and he's just sitting there and they're all talking.

Garry:

Yeah, that was really good. That was a good scene. So you want to move on to Cheers.

Amy:

Any other. Well, one more favorite scene Of course the wedding at the very end, especially the vows.

Garry:

Oh, I got that as a cheer.

Amy:

It was just a beautiful moment. Okay, I'll hold off on that, but that's one of my other favorite scenes, that wedding scene. All right, so let's get into cheers, okay and we.

Amy:

I had a lot more scenes I could talk about, but we only have so much time so I know so many, so many, right, right, we just liked okay all right, you go first uh, one of my biggest cheers is, I really think, the two, the two films that we've watched so far and I'm sure the third one will be the same but they've done such a great job at balancing the friendships and the romances. It's not heavy one side or the other. And I mean of course Hallmark, we love the rom-coms, we love the romance part of it, and usually you know that's the focus and sort of the friendships are the sideline, the family's kind of the sideline a little bit. The friendships are the sideline, the family's kind of the sideline a little bit. But I just really I think these films do a great job of balancing both. It's almost like equal time Right, like we're feeling the friendships and we're also deep in the romance part.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

Like I think.

Garry:

Yeah, I agree, this one was definitely.

Amy:

Yeah.

Garry:

Definitely deep in the romance yeah.

Amy:

So I just think they've hit a really good stride of showing real life and that friendships and romances and all of it just goes hand in hand. So that's what I. That's one of my biggest cheers.

Garry:

Do you have?

Amy:

one.

Garry:

Yes, yes, Talking about, say what you need to say before it's too late. The scene where they're at what you call the ruins and Danny comes walking down the stairs and he's like stop the wedding.

Amy:

Oh yeah, and it's at nighttime.

Garry:

There's no one there other than Zach, who's sitting at the altar. At the altar and Zach is like what, what are you talking about? And Danny goes on to talk about. Well, you know, I wish I would have broken in through the doors and stuff like this. And this is where Danny tells him how he feels, which I thought was great. Yeah, but this was a. I gave her my heart.

Amy:

She gave me a pin moment. Yes, yes it definitely was.

Garry:

Danny tells Zach that he loves him and Zach says something to the effect that if you really were my best friend, you would keep those doors closed, you wouldn't bust them open, and I thought that was a really good line. But I really appreciated that Danny came and said this is my last chance. I'm going to say it Screw it. Whatever happens happens.

Amy:

Well, yeah, he just puts it all out there, right.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

And then I like, because Danny's like not telling you was the stupidest thing I've ever done. Right, and you not telling me was the stupidest thing you've ever done.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

So here you are, and that's yeah.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

He put it all out there, and then out there, and then danny's face when he realizes zach is not there for it at that moment right that was a really good, yeah, really good. You gotta say, say what you feel and your reference, in case people don't know. I gave you, I gave her my heart, she gave me a pin. What is that in reference to?

Garry:

say anything. Say anything with john kuzak.

Amy:

Yes, yes, yes, a great movie a great 80s film right yes, I just I wanted to put that out there in case we were like what? Exactly and if you don't know, go watch it. Yes, okay, because we want to give you the spoiler.

Garry:

Yes, yes, so you have any other?

Amy:

we would totally give a spoiler. What are you talking about? Um, another cheer, the weaving of the narration. We've talked about this before. I think we're getting hints along the way about what's to come, right, she's? She said some things like the you know pete working in bulgaria, and the bartender's like, or the owner of the bar is like he, so he moved to bulgaria, and she's like, for a time, you know, so we know it, he doesn't stay in bulgaria, right? And then, um, there's something else where she talks about when zach, uh, elizabeth explains to the bar owner.

Garry:

That is it, katie, yeah.

Amy:

That Zach broke up with Nolan because Katie's like what happened with Nolan, and he said well, you know he let him know and Nolan was a decent guy and he, you know he was upset but he handled it well which. I thought was kind of cool. He didn't just like storm off or anything.

Garry:

Yeah, they kind of closed that, so we kind of get the closure of that.

Amy:

And then she says you know, he went off, he went home and then, years later, he ended up marrying a weatherman or something Right and having four kids, yeah, and plus he won his big case that he was on. So now we know about we know it's years later.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

Right, so we've gotten that hint there. So I just like that and it's not too much, but it's enough throughout it that it's just. It's sprinkled throughout.

Garry:

And I really like that. Yeah Me too.

Amy:

Any other cheers?

Garry:

Yeah, another one for me was the cliff jumping. Yeah, near the beginning of the movie, danny wanted Zach to jump off with him, right, just to kind of relieve the stress.

Amy:

Do something spontaneous, right and.

Garry:

Zach almost did it but was afraid of heights and said no. But later on in the movie, during the wedding, danny disappears. Yeah. But, Pete and Jackson know exactly where he is, so they go to the cliff jumping spot and of course that's where he is. And then here comes Zach running down that was a great, great scene and the back and forth of that's when he was telling them to be spontaneous, take off your tie, right and you know. And they're going back and forth kind of yelling at each other.

Amy:

Well, they're yelling like you know you're, the most you know, and they're going back and forth kind of yelling at each other. Well, they're yelling like you know you're the most you know you plan everything. They're screaming at each other, but not in a way that they're like angry. They're just kind of getting out how they feel about one another.

Garry:

Right, and then they grab hands and they jump off. Yes, and I thought that was awesome.

Amy:

Yeah, I thought that that was great. It's like a metaphor for them jumping off the cliff together and going for it right, Because that was towards the end. We talked about it in other Cheers. The location shoot. Greece looks beautiful and, as luck would have it, I have a friend who just went and had posted some pictures on social media and I was showing you and I was like, oh, it's so beautiful. I mean literally they just her and her family, just went and it just looked. It looks beautiful.

Amy:

That might be one place I might like to go sometime. Yeah, we sure will. I really liked you know they talked about laughter throughout the whole thing. That was sort of a theme and how important it is in relationships and you have to be able to laugh at things and not take things so seriously and I think that that was that's really important in life. You and I laugh a lot. We have a really good time. I mean, you know, don't?

Amy:

get me wrong, we have some arguments, but we do laugh a lot and just enjoy things together, so I appreciated that theme throughout the whole thing, and I also liked the supporting cast.

Garry:

The supporting cast was awesome in this one? What was her name? Ophelia.

Amy:

Yeah, she was so great yeah.

Garry:

And Konstantinos. Konstantinos, I guess that's who was her husband, and in the end they made up.

Amy:

Yeah, I'm not really yeah. Yeah, I'm not really sure, probably yeah, like they were exes or something and then got together. But she was really good too, because she kind of she's the one who told Zach, you know, I like she pointed out how much she could see that Danny was in love with him and he was like what, we're just friends, you know, and she's like, well, you're opposite, but you're very similar also, you know. So she kind of was instrumental in in that and I like that she was like a food blogger or cook, you know, and that's kind of, I guess, is what Jackson does. I don't know if he does the social media or if he helped get her book published or what, but he kind of he knew her.

Garry:

So that was pretty cool yeah.

Amy:

And, you know, another cheer for me, like I mentioned before, is the continuity of the film so far.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

You know, we've watched other trilogies and we've made note and I've even said where are we in the timeline?

Garry:

Right, I don't understand.

Amy:

We had a ball, but then it's not at the like. I've been confused before, but this before. But this one, the second movie, was just really so good in giving you the moments that you'd already seen and then adding in some right so I'm guessing we're gonna hopefully start at the same point in the third one, right, maybe, possibly, um, yeah and then katie's tavern.

Amy:

Yeah, so what do you think? There was one moment in this towards the beginning, and I think it was at the wedding. Um, I'm not sure if it was. It might have been at pete and chelsea's wedding, where we see betty and milo kind of bump into each other right.

Garry:

Yeah, that's the correct scene, okay they.

Amy:

They kind of bumped into each other and they seem annoyed and they kind of, and I'm like it's gotta be them, they have to be. I think Milo is one of the groomsmen and I think the other two are children of.

Garry:

Pete.

Amy:

Pete and Danny, right, right, that's. That's what I'm thinking. Danny you know, and they're all best friends, like there are three best friends and so I just I don't know, that's my, my gist, and I think the bride is probably betty we're gonna find out, we're gonna, we're gonna find out. I mean, I don't know. And then there's a point where, uh, with the narration um, where jackson says well, there's a part where jackson says the father, daughter trip before mom which brought up moves to.

Amy:

Italy and that's where the next film takes place. And the narrator, elizabeth says because the Kate, is it, katie?

Garry:

or Kate it's Kate.

Amy:

Kate. She says something like oh, they moved to Italy or something, and the narrator Elizabeth says yeah, I skipped some things, so there's more there too, right? You know, I don't know, I just think we're getting these hints throughout the movies and I'm not smart enough to catch them all. So it was good, yeah, yeah. So and then my final, which I think I said the continuity would be my final chair, but my other final chairs, like we talked about earlier, the different scenes that there were just big romantic moments between Zach and Danny I just thought they really worked, they were really emotional.

Garry:

I enjoyed them, especially the vows.

Amy:

Yeah, the vows. And there's one I didn't mention when Zach is thanking Danny for everything, he's like, not just the wedding, but for everything, for being my best friend. You were the first person that saw me for something more than a suit and a briefcase, you know. And then Danny cracks a joke because that's what he does. And then, you know, they're kind of talking on a patio and you can hear the water lapping up. I just thought that scene was so great. And then Zach, you know, says he has no family, but Danny has his friends and his sister, you know. And then Danny's like but I've got you, you know. And then danny's like but I've got you.

Amy:

And that's when he's tearing up again and I'm like, oh my heart, I just, they all, just it just worked so so well, I agree with you yeah 100 100 so, out of five quirks, how many would you give this? One. I would give this one a four and a half yeah, me too.

Garry:

Yeah, you tooers.

Amy:

I really enjoyed it. I like that. I'm looking forward to the third one because I'm intrigued. I really want to know who that bride is that's sitting in that bar, who's been doing the narrating and who the three groomsmen are. I want explanations, me too. And like you said. The third one what is it? Last Dance? The groomsman last dance.

Garry:

So I'm looking forward to seeing that, and that will be the movie for Tyler Hines. Yes, it will be. You're James Bond of Hallmark, all right, so is that a wrap?

Amy:

That's a wrap.

Garry:

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