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Hallmark's The Groomsmen: Last Dance

• Garry & Amy

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On this episode of Pour The Wine, It’s Rom-Com Time, Garry and Amy are jetting off to Italy! The bromance is alive and well in Hallmark’s finale to The Groomsmen trilogy. In Last Dance, Tyler Hynes returns as Jackson, who heads overseas to look after Betty while her mom embarks on a month-long work trip. What unfolds is a heartfelt story of second chances in love, friendships that stretch across continents, and the tender growth of a father/daughter bond. Add in the runaway bride twist? Pure chef’s kiss!

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Amy:

welcome to pour the wine. It's rom-com time where we'll sip some wine and review all things. Rom-com on the homework channel. I'm amy and I'm gary and you're pouring a cabs a cabs our favorite. Pour it. Pour it, it's been a long day Time to unwind.

Garry:

Yep, yep, all right.

Amy:

We've been watching the Gilmore Girls.

Garry:

Yes, we have.

Amy:

Yes, it actually started airing on the Hallmark Channel, but we were watching it just before. We had no idea it was coming to the Hallmark Channel, so we had never seen it.

Garry:

Nope.

Amy:

Did not watch it when it was on.

Garry:

No, did not.

Amy:

But it's actually quite enjoyable. The writing is really good. The wittiness and you noticed something about the writing. Well, the fast-paced delivery of it yes. The wit, the humor, the dry humor.

Garry:

Yep.

Amy:

What did you notice?

Garry:

Marvelous Mrs Maisel.

Amy:

Yes, marvelous Mrs, pretty cool.

Garry:

Yeah, it is.

Amy:

Yeah, so if you are interested in Gilmore Girls, check it out.

Garry:

Yes, please do.

Amy:

Yeah, it's just something fun to have on in the background, or yeah, it's light and it's great. So far, we're only on what? Season two, yeah, so we're working our way through it. We'll get there so what are we? Reviewing today. What is your voice cracking? I don't know.

Garry:

I'm in a singing mood.

Amy:

Today we're reviewing the Groomsmen Last Dance. It aired on the Hallmark Channel on Saturday, september 20th 2025. But it originally aired on Hallmark Plus on October 31st, all Hallows' Eve, I mean 2024. Oh oh, it is streaming right now on.

Garry:

Hallmark Plus. Yes, it is yes, Halloween 2024.

Amy:

Oh, oh, it is streaming right now on Hallmark Plus. Yes, it is yes, it is.

Garry:

We would love it if you would click that follow button on your favorite podcast platform so you don't miss an episode If you listen on Apple or Spotify. You can also leave us a review and some stars.

Amy:

And stars. And stars Reviews and stars.

Garry:

You can also find us on YouTube and all social media.

Amy:

Or send us an email to pourthewineits romcomtime at gmailcom and let us know what you thought about the Groomsmen trilogy. Yeah, maybe you watched it when it first aired on hallmark plus, or you just watched it as it aired on the hallmark channel.

Garry:

We would love to hear from you or you can email us about anything hallmark related yes, please do, please do, all right, so. So who's in this one?

Amy:

oh, boy, let me guess no let you guess. Do you want to take a guess? As we go through each actors, we do focus on their Hallmark work, if they have some, or we might throw in some of our favorite series or things they might be known for, but a lot of them have many acting credits. Yes, the list is longer than you can see.

Amy:

Tyler Hines returns as Jackson. He, of course, is a Hallmark fan favorite. He's been in more than 20 Hallmark productions, including 2024's Holiday Touchdown, a Chief's Love Story. He was in all three Groomsmen movies. Never Been Christ Time for Him to Come Home for Christmas and An Unexpected Christmas and the Three Wise Men movies.

Garry:

Three.

Amy:

Wise Men and a Baby. Three Wiser Men and a Boy, and he's going to be in the upcoming Countdown to Christmas 2025 movie. Three Wisest Men.

Garry:

Can't wait for that one.

Amy:

Can't wait for that. Yeah, it's going to be great. Jonathan Bennett plays Danny. He's been in several hallmark productions, including happy holidays, seasons, greetings from cherry lane, all three groomsmen movies, of course, christmas on cherry lane, the holiday sitter, the christmas house and the christmas house to deck those halls yeah those were so cute they were oh treat william Treat Williams, Love him.

Amy:

Christmas Made to Order and he is the host of Finding Mr Christmas, which will be back this year. Only it is going to be on the Hallmark Channel and not just on Hallmark Plus. Yeah, so season two Finding.

Garry:

Mr Christmas, a lot of people will be able to watch it.

Amy:

Uh-huh, BJ Britt plays Pete. He is the third groomsman. He was in all three of these movies, of course, and he was also in the Holiday Stocking. He will be in the upcoming Countdown to Christmas. 2025 movie Tidings for the Season.

Garry:

Yeah, I can't wait to see him in that I know I can't wait to see all these movies. Yes, I know.

Amy:

Elena Ruscani plays Gabriela. She has eight acting credits, no other homework work for her, but she was in three episodes of the Catch. Do you remember that? I think so. We watched that. It was about an investigator who falls for a fraudster and the fraudster's Peter Krause.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

I think it was only one season. It was on.

Garry:

ABC, I know it was good.

Amy:

It was really good. We were so disappointed when that was canceled. Heather Hemmons plays Chelsea. Heather has a few Hallmark productions under her belt, in addition to all three groomsmen movies. She was in 2024's Christmas Under the Lights, caribbean Summer Christmas in my Heart and Love Takes Two and those were not all in 2024, by the way, it just sounded like it the way I said it.

Amy:

Oh thanks. Thanks for backing me up. I got your back. Alexander Lincoln plays Zack. It looks like the three Grimmsman movies are his hallmark debut. He played Jamie Tate for 302 episodes in the British soap opera Emmerdale Farm. Lily Dodsworth Evans plays Elizabeth. The three groomsmen movies are her Hallmark debut. She was in the movie the Good Liar with Helen Mirren and Ian McKellen. That was out relatively recently. I believe Chloe Raphael plays Betty. That was out relatively recently. I believe Chloe Raphael plays Betty. Of her 11 acting credits, three are for the Groomsmen her only Hallmark productions.

Amy:

She was the voice of Kana in a few Thomas and Friends. All Engines Go movies and series.

Garry:

Oh, wow.

Amy:

Ann Bird plays Kate, the bartender for Hallmark. She's in all three groomsmen movies. She was in. She was in all three.

Garry:

Yeah, we saw her in all three.

Amy:

I had a moment. She was in two episodes of the Netflix series one day, which we did watch.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

We enjoyed. Elizabeth Watlett plays Hannah, which is Danny's sister. She's in all three of these movies With a bit more than a dozen acting credits. Some of her other work includes several shorts and a few voices in video games and animation, and she was in the movie Four Walls. Oliver Shaw plays Milo. He has five total acting credits and three of them are the crimson movies that's funny which are his hallmark debut. He was in an episode of the apple tv plus series disclaimer and that was with kate blanchett, kevin klein and sasha barrick.

Garry:

Oh, that's a pair.

Amy:

Orlin pavlov plays wyatt. He's hannah's husband. This trilogy is his hallmark debut. He's actually a Bulgarian actor, but best known as the lead vocalist in the Bulgarian band Kef. Kefi, kef it's.

Garry:

K-A-F-F-E. I have to listen to one of their songs, yeah.

Amy:

Yeah, you should. Yeah, you're the music guy.

Garry:

Yeah, I'll listen to one, See what it's like.

Amy:

Sally Dexter plays Sophia Gabriela's mom. She's a British actress and this is her Hallmark debut. She was in 621 episodes of the British soap opera Emmerdale Farm. Okay, you said hmm, all right. Cosmo Fusco plays Lorenzo Gabriela's dad. He's an Italian actor. This is his Hallmark premiere Some familiar work of his. He was in gone in 60 seconds. Okay, the movie and four episodes of friends oh, friends, okay baxter gaston plays adult milo.

Amy:

He has 10 acting credits. This is his first hallmark production. The other nine are either shorts or voicing a video game. Oh yeah, video game, cool. Eve Macklin plays Trish. That's, uh, jackson's ex-wife, right right, this is her hallmark premiere. She is in another trilogy actually, but for prime, and it's they're called my fault, my fault london, our fault london and your fault london, my fault london has already premiered on prime and the other two are in pre -production.

Amy:

Yeah, that's crazy wendy may Mae Brown plays Georgia. She makes another appearance in this one. She plays Pete's mom. Her Hallmark debut was in First Look and she was in Primes your Christmas or Mine.

Garry:

Man. Okay yeah, quite the cast, huh.

Amy:

Yeah, pretty cool, that's alright.

Garry:

That's alright.

Amy:

No, it's good.

Garry:

It's good to have a big supporting cast. Yeah Well, the Groomsmen Last Chance was directed by Ron Oliver. Ron has nearly 100 directing credits and has directed a ton of Hallmark movies, including all three Groomsmen's movies To Barcelona with Love, To Barcelona Forever, the Wedding Vale Journey, A Timeless Christmas and Christmas at the Plaza, and he wrote the teleplay for this one.

Amy:

Isn't that cool. Yes, I do believe we have thoroughly enjoyed his movies.

Garry:

Yes, we can talk about all those that are on there. I really enjoyed all three of them. The Groomsmen Last Dance was written by, according to IMDB, greg Baldwin, jonathan Bennett and Ron Oliver. They're credited with this story, and Jonathan Bennett is also credited with creating the characters.

Amy:

There you go.

Garry:

I mean, what do you think when you create these characters?

Amy:

That's pretty cool.

Garry:

I want this kind of dude.

Amy:

I want this kind of dude, this kind of woman yeah, maybe it helps when you're you know, personally friends with people and you can come up with something I mean, I don't know, use them as sounding boards and bounce them off. Yeah, yeah, see if it works, see if it doesn't work.

Garry:

That's pretty cool yeah, it is good for him, greg. He's credited with writing first look and last dance dance in this series. He also wrote the Holiday, sister and Wedding of a Lifetime.

Amy:

The Holiday Sitter, I think I said sitter.

Garry:

Sitter.

Amy:

Put on your glasses.

Garry:

Oh wait, you got them on yeah. The Holiday Sitter yes, I'm sorry, of a Lifetime, both of which star Jonathan Bennett.

Amy:

What? What was that last part?

Garry:

Both of which. No, before that oh A Wedding of a Lifetime.

Amy:

Oh, the Wedding of a Lifetime. That was my fault. I think I was talking over you.

Garry:

Okay, yeah, you were Well okay, rude and Jonathan has four writing credits, all for Hallmark. Hallmark, the Three Groomsmen Movies and the Holiday Sitter. Have you been drinking? Which is? Did you start before me, which he co-wrote with greg? No, I did not no, you did not.

Amy:

I know you did or did I?

Garry:

no, I did not, and that's it for the directors and writers all right all right, so time to drop the sonatais.

Amy:

Let's do it. Jackson moves to Italy to be near his daughter. But a chance meeting with cafe owner Gabriella and some meddling friends you know who you are may lead to a second chance at love.

Garry:

Yes, and again, if you have not watched this movie, please stop the podcast, go watch the Groundsman Last Dance come back come back, start us back up, tell us what you think. Yeah, because we will drop some spoilers spoiler.

Amy:

Spoiler alert spoiler alert so, hmm, goodness gracious goodness gracious.

Garry:

What was your first take on this one?

Amy:

my first take was what a finale to the trilogy.

Garry:

Yep, I agree 100%. That's all I have to say about that.

Amy:

No, that's all you have to say Now, everything really does come full circle in this movie and I absolutely loved it. Fire chemistry between Tyler Hines and Elena Ruscani, right. The friendship between the trio, though we didn't see it as much in this one, right. I didn't think we got more of the love story, yeah and more, yeah, which is interesting yeah, yeah, but I mean that's totally fine. It worked out um the mystery of who the bride, the runaway bride, is is resolved, which I love.

Amy:

Just a great, great way to wrap, to wrap the trilogy up yeah, that's my agree with you. What about you?

Garry:

Same Love the scenery on location filming man. They didn't film it in Italy, though, I know, but it's still the scenery itself made you feel like you were in Italy, you were there, yeah. And again Tyler Hines as James Bond, y'all.

Amy:

Oh gosh, Just saying. Are we going to say this every time we review In this?

Garry:

one. They even gave him a James Bond car.

Amy:

I know Come on. No, they really did. He had his yep.

Garry:

I know they did In Europe. Look at it, I mean cobblestone.

Amy:

he's driving through Hallmark, please, please.

Garry:

Do something like you said, like Sugar.

Amy:

Pond have a Hallmark version of James Bond. We're going to come up with a character name Like a Fletch. He could be like a Fletch type character.

Garry:

Right, yeah Well.

Amy:

Only he would be able to deliver the humor in a different way than. Chevy Chase did in Fletch. It would be dryedge, it would be dry, it would be. Spot on, it would be.

Garry:

It would be so good yeah that's all I'm gonna say about that. Okay, all right. But I really did like the shoe, the movie what do you think about the meet cute oh man, let's see almost getting run over.

Amy:

Yeah, a little scarce, scarce.

Garry:

Although it's both their faults, because she was looking down, she didn't look that way. Oh, you noticed that? I did not see that.

Amy:

Yeah, I'm going to call it the way I see it Right. So he's in his car. He's in his car. He's James Bond car, yeah.

Garry:

Being James Bond.

Amy:

He just needed the cool glasses and she starts to walk across and boom, and I just love it when she she yells at him in in italian yeah, yeah, but see he had an earbud on now.

Garry:

Was that one of the new, you know, apple ones where you can hear the translation? I'm sure not, because this was filmed like a year and a half ago.

Amy:

Yeah, that would have been cool, though, right. If he had been wearing that and had the translation on he could, yes, Apple's is it out now.

Garry:

No, I think it's going to be out later this month.

Amy:

So Apple's releasing?

Garry:

Right, the AirPods. Airpods that you can translate, so if someone's talking to you in a different language, it'll translate in your ear.

Amy:

How cool is that it reminds me of like politicians and stuff when they're in a different country and they have. Yeah yeah, and they hear something and they all have that earpiece that's gonna be bad for some people. I know that's all I'm gonna say.

Garry:

I know, yeah, but he, so he had his, his airpods in and he was on the business phone call and right, yeah, and then he almost hits her and she yells at him and what did you think about it?

Amy:

I'd love about the meet you yeah I thought it was pretty good. Yeah, I thought it was pretty good, it's a different way of meeting somebody, right, because? Oh, yeah, yeah it's like watch where you're going but I, I think, what does she say to him in that moment? Something like you're always on, something like you're always on the like Americans, the Americans are always on the phone, never in the now, never in the present.

Garry:

In the present, yeah, you're always.

Amy:

Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I thought it was kind of a good. It was an immediate take on the difference in their personalities and the difference in the cultures.

Garry:

In the culture. Yeah Right, Because she said Italians are in the now.

Amy:

Yeah right they stay in the present Right right. They live in the moment right.

Garry:

All right, well, let's go on to first takes.

Amy:

We already did first Favorite scenes oh, my goodness, take a sip. Take a sip, here's your wine. Take a sip, thank you.

Garry:

Go ahead first.

Amy:

Favorite scenes Favorite the word is favorite. Oh, my gosh, started with enough. I know I had the wording issue before. Words were hard for me no, no, in the last one we recorded, and now they're hard for you, apparently I passed it on to you yeah, you did so well, we didn't start off with the runaway bride no which I thought was interesting. Yeah, but instead we start off at the wedding, right, didn't we start?

Garry:

we started both of the other two off with right with the the scene in the uh tavern with kate the runaway.

Amy:

Well, she's right, yeah yeah, so I thought that was interesting and one of the first scenes. Then we see um, it's the wet, it's hannah's wedding, right, and that's when Jackson and Betty are dancing at the wedding.

Garry:

Mm-hmm.

Amy:

And you kind of wonder if that's sort of foreshadowing of the end. Because, that's where we start this time, instead of with the runaway bride. So that's what I was. I wasn't thinking that in the moment. Right, but then after we finished I was like I wonder if that they did that on purpose like they're kind of telling you without telling you you know. So I thought that was pretty cool that we didn't start off.

Amy:

They kind of veered away from that right you know briefly yeah, got anything else or no, that was my only favorite scene was that we did. Of course, I have more favorite scenes. You want to do one?

Garry:

Yeah, mine was. When Gabriela cooks dinner for Jackson and Betty.

Amy:

Oh, yes, yes.

Garry:

And it's so funny because prior to that, jackson couldn't get the oven lit right.

Amy:

Right.

Garry:

Or he didn't know it needed a lighter, so he's in there with a screwdriver. And meanwhile Betty calls Gabrielle, over which you don't know. She's the handyman or handywoman and she comes over.

Amy:

Well, you don't know, they own the house, right, they don't own the house, her family owns it, or the place they're renting. And then she fixes it.

Garry:

She says she fixes it and he's like well, what did you do? She goes I lit it. Yeah, but anyway she cooks dinner for them and she talks about how her dad always put a palm of salt in the water. Yeah, so it's as salty as the sea.

Amy:

Yeah.

Garry:

And I just thought that was really cool. I thought it was a cool story, yeah, yeah. Well, I know you were like a pound of salt, I'm going to try and I just thought that was really cool.

Amy:

I thought it was a cool story, yeah, yeah. Well, I know you were like a pound of salt. I'm going to try that.

Garry:

I know, because we don't do that Usually. I just put a pinch yeah, you're like.

Amy:

I wonder if that's true, that got your attention right away.

Garry:

Yeah, when we were watching it. Yeah, but it was a cute of his car, yes that was funny. And she says, yeah, this almost ran me over in the store.

Amy:

Is that that's when she makes, so you're back to when she makes him dinner.

Garry:

Right, right, right, right, and I thought that was very, very, very funny.

Amy:

Yeah, that was cute, the James Bond car. Gonna say it again.

Garry:

It almost ran over me in the store. And then, when they are finishing up dinner, betty wants to get a selfie before she leaves and she makes them get closer and closer and closer. Yeah, she's like closer and she snaps the photo because she's trying to get her dad to kind of get with Gabriella, to leave her alone at school Right because he's being overprotective with her.

Amy:

She's like he needs another hobby. I know.

Garry:

So she's trying to Start dating someone, hook him up with Gabriella. So what was another one of?

Amy:

yours. I always like the scenes, the FaceTime and the phone scenes between the three friends. I just thought that they, you know they didn't disappoint again. I love their connection. Despite the miles between them, they find that they make it work right and they say you have to do that. I mean with friends and everything it can't just be one-sided, but I like that they're showing that men do that too. Yeah, you know, stay connected and now it's so much easier Not easier, you still have to make the time but with FaceTime.

Garry:

The technology is easier.

Amy:

The technology makes it easier. You can call any time of day, you can use your phone, you can do FaceTime or whatever.

Garry:

You don't have to have two lines call writing any of that stuff. You don't have to wait for your mom to get off the phone.

Amy:

People don't realize. The kids these days don't realize how easy they have it. But, yeah, but I like that. So, like you just mentioned, when he's lighting the stove, that's one of the face times when he's trying to figure out what's wrong with the stove. That's one of the face times right.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

And then he says I thought it was interesting too, because in that moment Jackson says the guy is here to fix the stove.

Garry:

He says guy. I noticed that too.

Amy:

And it actually was a woman. All right was a woman all right, thank you very much. Exactly what she was doing. We did get a workout scene. Yes, I think jackson was on the phone and you have danny and pete actually working out, so and jackson didn't have food in his hand, even though he was on the phone in a different country, but I thought that that was cute. Yeah, um. And then there's the facetime just before the festival yeah and they show up at the door.

Amy:

So it was just cute how you have that theme through all three movies.

Garry:

Yeah, that was one of my favorite scenes where, like you were saying they were FaceTiming and Betty was trying to get him to go to the dance or whatever they called it, and Pete and Danny were like, yeah, you need to go. And he's like, well, if you want to go, you come here. And that's when the doorbell rings and it's them.

Amy:

And it's them at the door. Yeah, that was cool.

Garry:

I mean, can you imagine having friends like that that just pick up and just come and see you halfway around the world when your friends need you.

Amy:

You got to go right the festival right where they have. They have to wear a mask, right right that dance and then, well before they dance, yeah when dan, when they get there and danny's, like I've always wanted to see italy, just not through tiny eye holes, because they're making him wear the mask and then, of course, jackson dancing with a you know a, a mysterious masked woman, right, and they do the big dip, right.

Amy:

And then you have Danny and Pete watching him and clapping and they're like do it again, double dip, you know, and it was just so cute.

Garry:

And they were like look, he has hips. I didn't know he had hips, I know.

Amy:

It's just so funny, it's so cute, it's so funny, it's so cute, it's so funny.

Garry:

I just yeah, I really like it.

Amy:

And you know that scene reminded me of one of my all-time favorite movies About Last Night.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

Do you know what scene I'm talking about?

Garry:

I think they're sitting down in a bar or something In a bar, yeah. It's the scene where but I don't remember who's talking.

Amy:

Megan Mullally is in it and I think she's flirting with Rob Lowe and Demi Moore and Elizabeth Perkins are kind of watching her and they're you know kind of goading her. They're kind of narrating what she's doing.

Amy:

She's like she's talking to him flirtatiously, she goes and next it'll be a hair flip, and then Megan Mullally like flips her hair and they're like bravo, bravo, and they write, you know, like as if she's in the Olympics. They write like a number, Right, Like you know, Demi Moore writes 10, 10,. You know, 1-0, 1-0. So it just kind of reminded me of that because I just thought it was cute, so so cute. Yeah, it was In this movie.

Garry:

Yeah so you have any more.

Amy:

I really liked the scene when Betty and Jackson finally, you know, have a talk and Betty admits that you know she's like and it's so great because they have a great relationship, and he's, you know, he's kind of bothering her, but she doesn't want to say anything, she's sort of tiptoeing around it and then finally she's like, basically, just like you're being overprotective, Like I don't need you to walk me to school every single day.

Amy:

Right, I don't need you to walk me to school every single day. I don't need you to pick me up every single day and walk me home, like you're ruining my cred, my street cred, you know. Yeah, and my friends are making fun of me, but you know, and she notices and says that he's scared. You know, I think you're scared to enter a relationship and I thought that that was really profound, because kids know.

Garry:

Yeah, they do.

Amy:

Kids know, especially teenagers. Yeah, you know, and I just I like that. They made her so integral, an integral part of the story In really all three films. She's hanging out with them. She's respectful.

Garry:

She's not, you know, a kid who's obnoxious or mean, or you know they just made her a teenager And're gonna have their ups and downs, but you know she's just a good kid she is and I like that, I, I appreciated that.

Amy:

And then that kind of you know goes into danny and pete, convincing him he can't behind hide, behind protecting her anymore, and that sort of when you know, jackson gives them breakfast and it's like three blueberries and yogurt.

Garry:

That was funny.

Amy:

And then they're like where's the rest of the breakfast? And he's like that's how we do it in Italy. And what is what is? Danny? Says something like but my stomach is American, or something like that. You know, it's just so funny. Because we, that's like you know, we do, we serve large portions here. Because we, that's like you know, we do, we serve large portions here. I just thought it was really. It was a cute way to kind of express still the differences.

Garry:

In the cultures, right in the cultures, yeah.

Amy:

And then that's when Betty and her dad, when Jackson, they go to the door and he says, you know, he's kind of taken to heart what she says, what she said to him. And he's like look, I don't want you to argue with me but, I'm just not going to walk you to school anymore. You know, that's kind of how he handled it and he's like I know, I know you're going to be upset but, I'm not going to do it and she kind of smiled and it was so cute.

Garry:

Yes, it was. The way they did that, so I really, I really enjoyed that. Yeah, he's very good at doing that kind of acting. Yeah, you know, or he's, he knows that he he's trying to be comedic about it, right, but in a drier sense right, right and he knows he's wrong and what he was doing, not not like necessarily wrong, but that you know she. It's how he communicates with her.

Amy:

Yes, yeah.

Garry:

And he's done. He did it a couple of times throughout the movie, but that one was really good.

Amy:

That was really good and and yeah, and it just shows their relationship. I, like you, know that they're showing a strong father-daughter relationship.

Garry:

Mm-hmm, you know it's good. Yeah, so you have more Cheer.

Amy:

Our favorite scenes I just enjoyed this movie so much, but we have to talk about and this will be a major spoiler alert- yes, it will be. So if you don't want to know what happens at the end of the movie, but we can't not talk about it because it's so good.

Garry:

I agree.

Amy:

It's so good. So for the last time we go back to Elizabeth, who is the runaway bride, right, right, and she is in the bar and Kate opens the door and says this is kind of. When I say the last time, I mean, you know, we go back and forth between the narrator and between Kate and Elizabeth.

Garry:

And the movie.

Amy:

Who's describing everything that's happening briefly, but so the very last time Kate opens the door and the person standing at the door she says you must be Milo.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

So now we know you know, which is kind of my guess in the first when we did the review for the first movie and so now we know that Elizabeth is Betty.

Garry:

Yeah.

Amy:

Right and it's so good, and he says he's looking for. Does he say elizabeth or?

Garry:

does he say betty in that moment? I think he says elizabeth I'm not sure.

Amy:

Yeah, I'm not sure, I'm not sure.

Garry:

But but what gave me, what gave it away from me, was when she had that talk with her dad in the alleyway about walking her all the time. Yeah, the camera focused on her eyes. Yeah, and they kind of made them blue and I was like, ah, that's her, that's it.

Amy:

That's when I kind of thought we try not to talk too much when we watch, so our reactions to each other's things, that we have to say about the things we're reviewing, is genuine and you know. But but in that moment you're like her eyes. You did say that right then and I was like what are you talking about?

Garry:

you know you're like oh so you're looking at elizabeth's eyes? Oh no, you were joking, I was joking I just thought it was.

Amy:

I didn't mean it like that I did not mean it like that, because I was trying. I'm like that.

Garry:

Because I was trying. I'm like, who is she in this film? Her eyes are blue. I don't see anybody else's eyes.

Amy:

It was blue eyes, and then they zoomed in.

Garry:

But when they zoomed in it was like, oh, that's who it is Okay.

Amy:

Yeah, so you know, and I just thought that whole scene really worked. And then they walked to the back. And then they walk to the back, he says, doesn't? He say? Let me show you something.

Garry:

Right, because she ran away, because she wanted her wedding to, she felt like her wedding didn't have that big wow.

Amy:

No, I don't think it's the wedding. It was the relationship.

Garry:

Right, well, the relationship.

Amy:

Yeah, not the wedding Right. So we've gone through these three movies and the three love interests have had some big revelations some big complication that they've had to overcome, right, and their relationship hasn't had that. So she is wondering if they're going to last because they don't have that. She's looking for that big romantic thing. And then that's when you're right, and that's when he says they don't what, they don't need something big. And then he's when you're right and that's when you know he says they don't what, they don't need Right.

Amy:

Something big, and then he's like follow me.

Garry:

Right.

Amy:

And then they go to the back. Now we've only seen, at this point, the front of the bar, yes, right, or the bar. We've seen a bar Right. It never occurred to me that it was swoop. The bar they've been going to, that they've been at for two other movies, three other movies right, it must be two taverns, because on the front it showed Katie's Tavern.

Garry:

Did it, yeah, but when they were in there it showed Swoop Swoop. So I'm wondering if they were just one in the same.

Amy:

Well, but it's been a lot of years since then, so maybe it changed names.

Garry:

That's you know what. It probably changed names. Okay, because that makes sense when they yes, when they were and she's katie the bartender.

Amy:

I didn't.

Garry:

I didn't notice that it says katie what did?

Amy:

it say. At the end I thought it's well, I'm it says katie, it says katie's tavern.

Garry:

So you're right. Over over the years it probably got Right. Right, Okay, that makes sense.

Amy:

When they go to the back of the bar you see the familiar couch, you see the arcade game.

Garry:

Yeah, the video game. That has been the video game that's been in each movie. Yep.

Amy:

And I just thought it was so good.

Garry:

I'm telling you, I I was like, oh my gosh, I was blown away, didn't? Didn't milo say something about an airbag? I? Can't remember that quote um because he said we don't need an airbag, or yeah, I think.

Amy:

I think he does say like because you don't, you don't need to be going so fast, and then hit like a brick wall right you know like, and then implying the airbag, opening up like to stop you from something you know what I mean, right like your your relationship doesn't have to be accelerated so hard right, that's what I think you meant, that's what I think, anyway, all right, so back to the the back of the tavern so they go to the back of the tavern

Amy:

yes, and because this is one of your favorite scenes too, right.

Garry:

Oh, it was probably my favorite.

Amy:

I know, I know.

Garry:

And what's funny is because in the second one, betty and Danny are always playing the game to try to beat each other to have the number one score. Yes, and always on the top of the number one person is MLB, which you know, danny, being baseball, major league, baseball, right.

Amy:

Right.

Garry:

But no, no, milo's, like I've been trying to tell you this whole time, if you just would have won the top, you know, beat the high score, it would have showed you a message and MLB is Milo loves Betty.

Amy:

Yes so brilliant yes, it was so good and the music was so great in this scene and the song that's great after, when they get to the wedding. But go ahead.

Garry:

Yeah so.

Amy:

Milo Loves Betty Yep. And then and we're like, oh my gosh, I wasn't expecting that.

Garry:

It was so, so good. And then they end up playing each other and the name that they put at the top is B Heart M, which I thought was.

Amy:

Yeah, because she says I want to beat your score first before we go back to the wedding. So that was just so, so well done. Yes, it was so well done. I think we teared up, we got a little emotional, and then you go to the wedding, right, and it's at the same venue that the first wedding was in Hannah.

Garry:

Yes.

Amy:

Right, danny's sister, and in fact Danny alludes to that in his speech, right, like well, last time you saw me was probably at the last wedding we were all at together, you know, and it was so cute because they had grayed everybody up Okay, except, but he was really grayed who? Which one? Danny, danny was really grayed. Well, Danny's been through some stuff, maybe.

Garry:

I guess, I guess.

Amy:

So yeah, they grade up. You know Jackson and Danny, but Pete looked the same.

Garry:

He did, he did.

Amy:

He didn't age, Nope. But poor Danny and Jackson got the grade treatment. Oh my goodness.

Garry:

Oh, my goodness.

Amy:

But it was pretty, it was so good.

Garry:

So then you have the wedding and all of that, that was all of my cheers.

Amy:

And then, of course, at the very end.

Garry:

Mm-hmm, she gets on his feet and dances.

Amy:

Yeah, that was cute.

Garry:

That was the part you were talking about. Where did it come full circle? Yeah, in the movie when she was younger, getting on his feet and dancing, and then at the end where she got on her dad's feet.

Amy:

It was dancing at his wedding. Yeah, and, and.

Garry:

The dance.

Amy:

The dance Yep.

Garry:

Yep, they did the dance, the dance, yep, they did the dance.

Amy:

You can't go without mentioning the dance. I loved it. It was so good, so good, all right so cheers.

Garry:

Yeah, you go first. I only had the one, but we already talked about it, the one we already talked about it. Yeah.

Amy:

Well, my biggest cheer is the storytelling. I love how well the films handled all the timelines without it being repetitive or too complicated. We get, you know, like different angles, different versions of certain time frames, but not too much so. And you know we've seen it not work so well in other trilogies and this was just you always knew where you were in the timeline and I really, really liked that. And just the storytelling in general. I've mentioned this before. The mystery of the runaway bride, I thought was so good, and to have that theme throughout each of the movies and then to have the reveal like they did was just so good, so touching, loved it, loved it it was a tearjerker so what was your biggest cheer?

Garry:

then the no. I was just gonna say I loved how betty became like, came into her own, when she talked to her dad. I thought I had a really great relationship that they could talk to each other in a certain way, yeah. And the other respect that person's decision or point of view yeah. And when she told him I love you, but you don't need to pick me up from school, yeah, I'm an adult now, even though she was only 14.

Amy:

And he didn't get defensive or mad about it. He was taken aback but he took a beat to think about it.

Garry:

He's like well, she's my daughter. You know, jackson and Pete are trying to, or Danny and Pete are trying to tell him look, she's 14. Give her some space. You don't have to give her all space but just give her some space.

Amy:

Well, yeah, there are still limits, but you know he's like well know, there's my daughter. Listen up a little bit. It's understandable, but he did and that was my cheer, yeah, so I mean I really love the theme, you know the whole slow down be present in the moment. I mean I know we're all, you know we're all on our phones more, and I was thinking today like what did I do?

Amy:

right when I went to the doctor's office and I didn't have a phone to. I mean seriously, like there was a time when I did not have a cell phone.

Garry:

Well, you read a book or a magazine.

Amy:

Or my cell phone was in a bag in the car because it was big, it was not portable. I mean, it was portable but it was a brick, yeah, I mean. So I just think about that and we try to. You know, I try to put my phone down, more like if we're at dinner, and you know I don't, I I make a conscious effort not to do that and I know a lot of people don't and you do.

Amy:

You are distracted, you're just distracted and it's easy to just be distracted by it. You know, we all fall into that. So nowadays, especially so, I appreciated the kind of the theme of you know, slow down, be present, you know in the moment, and just just don't be afraid of failure, not hiding behind things, you know. So there were, there were some things. And then, of course we talked about it Betty's wedding and then their dance yes, we talked about at Betty's wedding and then their dance, yes, and then the very, very end, the end of the movie, where the bartender says to Kate, you know what was this all about anyway? And she goes well, it's a long story and that's kind of how it started.

Garry:

That's why the full circle, the runaway bride.

Amy:

Yeah, everything came around, so I just yeah, I loved it.

Garry:

Me too, so I just yeah, I loved it Me too, so Any jeers? No, I don't.

Amy:

Okay, I have a jeer.

Garry:

Okay, let's hear it.

Amy:

And I okay the collar on Jackson's like off-white beige's jacket drove me nuts what do you mean when it was? Up, drove me nuts. No, it's not just that it was up, I don't care that it was up. And apparently this is a thing with tyler hines, that he wears his collars up, which I don't care. I think it's kind of cool, right, you know, because he's james bond, so he's cool but one side would be up and one side would be down right. I did not appreciate that so much in this season my attention was drawn to it.

Amy:

I'm like either put it both down or both up and then, like the very next thing, they both be down. Like the editing was like I don't know. I just the one side up and one side down bothered me okay and it would be like up in the back but down on the right, but up on the left. I just that would be my only jeer. That's a small thing, but that's just a little. You know, flip it up if you want to be cool.

Amy:

Yeah, you know, that's fine, but hey, yeah, he's cool dude, pick a side, pick a side up or down, up or down, but that's it, that's my only jeer.

Garry:

So out of five corks, you give this one I'd give it a four and a half me too. What about you that was giving a four and a half.

Amy:

Yeah, it was good, I really enjoyed if the collar would have been straight, it would have been a five. No, I'm just kidding. Four and a half. So good, such a great series. I would recommend the series a hundred time and time again.

Garry:

Watch it so great and and you know what's funny is usually these like when they have a trilogy like this, one of them kind of lags yeah, but you have one that's good.

Amy:

I thought they were all.

Garry:

They were all really really good and well, if I did have a cheer, if you combine them all, a jeer a jeerer was when the groomsmen went to go find her again in the tavern. Yes, and it didn't look like it was them, it did not.

Amy:

That was not them, that would have been my only jeer throughout the series. I do not believe that was them. I don't believe it either. I will stand by it. It sounded. They put their voices on there.

Garry:

Yes, they the three men standing there with him, so something must have been going on when that happened, yeah.

Amy:

All right.

Garry:

Yeah, is that a wrap?

Amy:

That's a wrap.

Garry:

All right. If you really really liked the show, we would really really appreciate your positive review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And if you didn't really really like the show, we'd still appreciate your positive review.

Amy:

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