Hallmark's The Way Home S4 E8: Tainted Love

Garry and Amy are diving back into the pond for this episode of Pour The Wine, It’s Rom-Com Time, where they break down and review The Way Home Season 4, Episode 8, Tainted Love.

Elliot chooses to remain in 1925, determined to uncover the truth about his mother while stepping into the world of bootlegging himself. Meanwhile, Cliff and Fern continue to grow closer, and Tessa finally reveals the truth about Griffin and how she came to the Landry family.

Back in Port Haven, Alice’s trip to the early 1980s delivers some rare and heartwarming moments with Del and Colton, along with a vulnerable Evelyn scene that suggests she may know more than she's letting on. In the present day, the mystery deepens with the spliced film reel revelation, Jacob and Abby's painfully relatable dinner with Del and Sam, and the discovery that the key is actually a cipher hidden within Fern’s writing.

With the series finale just around the corner, Garry and Amy discuss all the clues, surprises, emotional moments, and lingering questions as the story races toward its conclusion.

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Transcript

Welcome And Spoiler Warning

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Welcome to For the Wine. It's rom cum time, where we'll sift some wine and review all things rom com on the Hallmark channel. I'm Amy.

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Today we're going to be reviewing episode number eight of the final season of The Way Home. Only two left. Tainted Love. It originally aired on the Hallmark channel on Sunday, June 7th, 2026. And you can catch all the first three seasons on Netflix, and you can catch all three seasons plus what's aired on season four so far on Hallmark Plus.

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Oh goodness.

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If you need to catch up.

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On all the streaming platforms. There you go. It's sad because we only have two left after this one.

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Well, it's not all the streaming platforms. No, I know, I know.

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It just feels like it.

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I know, I know.

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All right. This episode was written by Michael Hanley and directed by Michelle Lenimere. So let's drop the sun-ups.

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Kat tries to figure out what's next while Elliot learns more about Tessa and reconnects with his mama.

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With his mama. Oh my god. And this is a part of the podcast where we tell you if you haven't seen this episode yet, turn us off. Go watch it. Come back and let us know because we're probably going to drop some spoilers. No, we probably will. Not probably. We will.

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We will. You have to start saying we will.

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On this type of series.

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So because I mean I don't even know how we would talk about it.

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You can't.

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I I I don't even know. Except we'd be like, well, we like the episode. We're done.

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I know. It's it's it's hard. It's hard not to drop little surprises here and there, but you ready to dive into it?

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All right. So we ended the last episode, episode number seven. Casey and Sam have a connection. Yeah, they're Dell and Sam have professed their love for one another. Jacob and Abby had

Where Everyone Left Off

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a shared a kiss.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

Oh my goodness, goodness.

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Elliot doesn't jump in, jump into the pond to go back to the present with Kat. He stays in 1925.

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Yeah, he does.

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Kat and Alice discover the newspaper articles that Elliot was looking at, and they realize that there is a picture of him in one of the newspaper articles, and he has been arrested as the big fish.

SPEAKER_00 3:29

Let's be honest. He forefingered one thumbdo's papers home. That's what he did.

SPEAKER_03 3:37

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:38

Let's call it what it is.

SPEAKER_03 3:40

He did. Well, he didn't bring the paper, but he brought a lot of cop. Well, a couple of the papers were the actual copies. So he's gonna return them. I know it.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

The the big fish one he stole.

SPEAKER_03 3:52

Well, yeah, but well, it's him, technically. And Alice tries to throw a film away that has her mom in it. She is in what year was she in 1960?

SPEAKER_00 4:02

79 into 80, because it was New Year's.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

Into 80, right. And then we had the whole key is the key of it all with a note that was found in the piano.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Peter and yeah, in the piano. Okay, so let's start with the opening.

SPEAKER_03 4:18

All right. So are we gonna talk about this one? We're just are we gonna go chronological or do you want to go well?

SPEAKER_00 4:25

Last time we did by the year. Right. So let's do it again.

SPEAKER_03 4:30

Do it by year?

SPEAKER_00 4:31

Yeah, let's do it by year again.

SPEAKER_03 4:33

Oh, okay. All right.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

Unless you want to go chronological. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 4:36

I just need to see what when where do we end up? Do we end? We end in the present, so we'll do that last.

SPEAKER_00 4:42

Right.

SPEAKER_03 4:43

All right, let's talk about 1925 because that's where we start. Oh, yeah. We start in 1925 and we get a replay of the pond scene, not previously on.

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Right, right.

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It's actually part of the episode. They show you where Elliot makes the conscious

1925 Elliot Stays Behind

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decision to not jump.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

Yeah. And yes, and him and Tessa are having a conversation. And again, he asks, Why did you do it?

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And well, he goes back to the house, and Fern and Tessa are in the house, right?

SPEAKER_00 5:15

Right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_03 5:17

Right. And Fern is upset with Tessa. Oh, you mean you mean the beginning part.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

Yeah, the beginning part.

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I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I jumped ahead. That's my point. Oh, that's okay. You do you, girl?

SPEAKER_00 5:27

You do you.

SPEAKER_03 5:30

I am shutting up.

SPEAKER_00 5:32

But anyway, but they do have a conversation, and and it's the it's like a reshow of last episode where he says, Why did you do it? And she tells him it was the best thing at the time.

SPEAKER_03 5:45

Right. Now we can you are right. Write it, put it down in your calendar.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

No, why? It's being recorded right here. Oh, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 5:53

It's on the recording. You were correct. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

And and when I uh post it, we're gonna have thousands and thousands of our subscribers see this and hear it.

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Right, right, right.

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Our tens and tens.

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Tens of tens.

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Okay. All right.

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All right, let's go into so then we go to the house and Fern and Tessa are kind of in a heated discussion.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Yes, they are.

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Fern is upset with Tessa because, you know, the whole she's been lied to her whole life thing. Yep. So they're having a discussion, and Fern is like, I have Grayson's film, and you can go be home with your son because Fern just wants to end it all. You know, they're at a place where Tessa could go back and be with Elliot, and she's with Grayson, so everything is good.

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Right.

SPEAKER_03 6:45

Air quotes, right? And then Elliot walks in. Tessa is not happy to see Elliot.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

Nope. Because now he's stuck.

SPEAKER_03 6:54

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 6:55

But you know what's interesting is all these conversations happen in the Landry kitchen.

SPEAKER_03 7:01

Mm-hmm. The kitchen table, that kitchen area is is a very popular.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

Remember, Dell said the kitchen was where it was at.

SPEAKER_03 7:10

That's right, that's right. The kitchen parties. So then you have um Tessa isn't happy. And I doesn't she tell Elliot something like, you know, you guys have made a real mess of things.

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Right.

SPEAKER_03 7:20

You know, and and then she walks off, and then Elliot and Fern are on the porch, another area where we have a bunch of conversations.

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Oh my goodness.

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We love a good front porch, don't we?

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 7:32

We have all kinds of conversations on the front porch.

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And, you know, Elliot is sort of at a um across roads because he wants to have a relationship with his mom, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:46

But he doesn't know what to do. He doesn't know what to do, doesn't know what to say. And the interesting part about this is they're they're out there talking to him in Fern, and he's kind of like, Oh God, maybe I messed up. What am I gonna do? Where am I gonna stay now?

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I couldn't bring it to the front. That's why I'm like, help me, help me.

SPEAKER_00 8:03

Sorry, I was kind of having a moment.

SPEAKER_03 8:05

No, you're good anyway. So I was having a moment.

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So he's like, Oh my god, where am I gonna stay? And to be honest, I was thinking the same thing. And then she because that's Cliff, Cliff is staying there, right?

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Right.

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So Fern is like, oh honey, you're you can stay here. You can be Cliff's roommate. Wow. And on that note, that's when Cliff drives up.

SPEAKER_03 8:28

Well, I think right before we see him, Fern tells Elliot we can't tell Cliff about the what the new what are they doing?

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Meeting at the meeting at the cove.

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At the cove for the new shipment or whatever's coming in and happening.

SPEAKER_00 8:44

Or or meeting at the drop, the um where the Auggy boys are, their little house. Yeah, the uh right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_03 8:51

Right the location, the house, or why can't why are words hard for me tonight? Oh my gosh, it's gonna be a long night. Okay.

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All right. So so we then so she tells um Elliot that she he can be the roommate with Cliff. Cliff arrives, and they are now, you know, they're now roommates, and Fern calls him Tom. She introduces Elliot as Tom Buchanan.

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Yes.

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So now we know how Tom Buchanan became Tom Buchanan. Became Tom Buchanan.

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Because Fern gave him that name.

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Right.

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Right. And and Cliff says, sure was nice though, seeing you on this porch at the end of my day. It's so cute.

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He loves her, man.

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I know. I know.

SPEAKER_00 9:38

And then he tells her about the award he's supposed to be getting. Right. And he's gonna be going into town or somewhere in a hotel um overnight. So then we move on to the next scene, right?

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Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 9:53

And this is where Elliot walks into the Augie Boys camp.

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Yep.

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Letting them know that he is Cooper's son. And if you got any problem with that, talk to Mama.

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Take it up with her, take it up with her, right?

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Because she will throw you off the train.

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And he has volunteered himself to join them.

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Yep.

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Basically. And then they're both like, okay.

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And and what's interesting, did you notice the man behind them who was loading the truck?

SPEAKER_03 10:21

I did not. Yeah, suspicious.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

Suspicious. Mm-hmm. Sure did.

SPEAKER_03 10:26

You noticed it. You noticed it.

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Sure did.

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I'm gonna say you called it. I did not, of course, which is not surprising. All right, so we'll stay in 1925. Elliot is making dinner for he's made dinner for Cliff and for Fern. And Cliff is trying to get out of Elliot. Like, so where are you from exactly? What farm? You know, and Fern, like she's so good at like changing the conversation. She's like, let's not worry about that. And so she gets Elliot to go play the piano, and she starts to sing T for Two. Oh, it's so good. And then her, Fern and Cliff dance while Elliot is still playing the piano. And then Elliot starts playing time after time.

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Cindy Lauber. Oh Cindy Lauber.

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Oh goodness. And he sings it, which was great.

SPEAKER_00 11:22

Yes.

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And Fern and Cliff are dancing to it. And Tessa has come into the house but hasn't notified anybody that she's there.

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Right.

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And she's watching, and you can kind of see her sort of smiling, and she's sort of tearing up. And you know, you're not really sure. I mean, you just presume because she's seeing her son, and like I guess not his element because it's not his time period, but yeah. And then Elliot and Tessa go on the porch and they have a conversation.

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Right.

SPEAKER_03 11:53

And um, you know, she says that the basically the Augie boys have kept her up on his progress.

SPEAKER_01 11:59

Yes.

Piano Night And Porch Confessions

SPEAKER_03 12:00

With him helping. So I'm not sure how much into the future we were. Is that when we went to a month later, maybe?

SPEAKER_00 12:07

It might have been.

SPEAKER_03 12:08

Yeah, because we're we're skipping, we're kinda, yeah, so it might be. And you know, and he is that when he asks her again, yeah, why did she leave? Like, I just want one thing. And she basically says she was confused and scared, but not of not of Vic. She was scared of herself. And I thought that was interesting.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

So yeah, she kind of revealed some information there.

SPEAKER_03 12:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:34

Because she says she wouldn't recognize that girl who jumped so long ago.

SPEAKER_03 12:38

Right, right. She was scared of who she had become. And I just think, you know, we hear those things in this series now, and it's like, there's so much more they could explore.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

Right.

SPEAKER_03 12:49

There's so many stories. I know.

SPEAKER_00 12:51

I want to know. I want to know. They should have a spin-off or something.

SPEAKER_03 12:56

Well, no, continue it. And then and then he asks her if she loved Vic. Um and she says that.

SPEAKER_00 13:07

Yeah, because she also asks if Vic or he asks if Vic was good to her, or was she afraid of Vic? And she said no, he was a kind and good man.

SPEAKER_03 13:16

And then she kind of tells the story about her and Griffin, how they they jumped, they landed in 1882.

SPEAKER_01 13:23

Yep, in Port Haven. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:25

And they found their footing, and then she had gotten sick, very sick, and Griffin jumped to go get medicine from his time period. Time period, but it never came back.

SPEAKER_00 13:41

Nope.

SPEAKER_03 13:42

So you have to wonder, do you think Griffin tried to jump several times to go find her?

SPEAKER_00 13:48

Because the pond only takes you Well, I I seem to be getting it wrong every time, so I'm not I'm not gonna I bet it's gonna turn out that he did try to go back, but that's the first time. I think he did and just couldn't go back because the pond wasn't wasn't ready for him to go back. Right. Just just like Ellie uh Jacob could, you know, um Alice couldn't find Jacob for over 20 years. So yeah, I think he tried and didn't and couldn't make it. So she had to make her make a life there, and she ended up walking over very ill to the Landry's home. And this is how she becomes friends or auntie coop with Fern.

SPEAKER_03 14:34

Yeah, she becomes part of the Landry family. They take her in.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

And yeah, so we do get a lot of information there. I think in that one scene, which is really great. And then later we'll talk a little bit more about, you know, because we think she did jump, but we don't know when. But you do find out more about that a little bit later, which which we'll get to since we're staying in 1925. But and then go ahead. I was just gonna say that Elliot then asks her about the letter that she wrote about her being sick, and she's like, I didn't write a letter.

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Right.

SPEAKER_03 15:14

So of course we're like rope.

SPEAKER_00 15:16

Who wrote the letter and who delivered the letter?

SPEAKER_03 15:20

I think it was Griffin.

SPEAKER_00 15:23

Well, it was either Griffin or I don't know. Do you think her and Jacob met each other during that time period in 1825?

SPEAKER_03 15:37

Because who how did they find was Jacob in 1925?

SPEAKER_00 15:42

I don't remember. 1825.

SPEAKER_03 15:44

Oh, 1825. 1825, 1880. I don't know. Someone will correct us. We're getting our time, our years wrong. We'll just say 1800s, I don't know. But I don't, I don't think I I think it's actually gonna end up being Griffin because if he if he jumped and went back to present day, right, and then he jumped again to try to get back to her and couldn't get back to her, if he tried to keep jumping, he might have written the letter to try to make it a little bit easier on Vic and um Elliot. Like he like Griffin felt badly that he couldn't get back to help her come back to the present day.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

But but didn't we find out that it was Tessa's handwriting on the letter and in the Well, you assume it's Tessa's handwriting because they think the letter is from Tessa. Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 16:38

Oh, but then that would mean it was Griffin was there during that. That's a good point, too, though.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:45

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

It's confusing.

SPEAKER_03 16:47

Maybe, maybe Jacob, maybe it is Jacob.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 16:51

No, but he wouldn't have I'm confused. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

We'll we'll we'll skip that one because that's that's pretty interesting to me.

SPEAKER_03 16:57

Yeah, that's a whole rabbit hole.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

She says she didn't she didn't send it, but it was her handwriting according to Alice and and Kat.

SPEAKER_03 17:06

No, they think it's her handwriting because her name is on there. Love mom or whatever she signed it.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

But they noticed that the handwriting was the same as the one in the almanac for the Landry's.

SPEAKER_03 17:16

Right. And they're right, right.

SPEAKER_00 17:19

So, anyways, so then Tessa told Elliot she used to sing time after time to him and that that was their song. I loved that. Oh, that was a great rendition.

SPEAKER_03 17:31

No, I love the scene.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

No, I love the scene, but the song that Elliot sang, his rendition of it.

SPEAKER_03 17:36

Oh, it was really good.

SPEAKER_00 17:39

I loved it.

SPEAKER_03 17:40

It was really good. And you can kind of see Elliot's like, oh, I mean, it's just cool because you know, here he thought she just left him and they really she did have a connection with him, but he just

Tessa’s Origin Story Gets Real

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didn't know about it.

SPEAKER_02 17:51

Well, of course.

SPEAKER_03 17:52

So I think there's, you know, there's just gonna be a lot more to her story in two episodes.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

I know. I don't know how they're gonna do it, but I hope they do it. Right.

SPEAKER_03 17:59

So then Tessa tells Elliot he needs to be there for the shipment. He starts to tell her things about himself. You know, he says he's moving in with moving in with Kat. He's a teacher. And she's like, I always wanted to be an English teacher. And she says her favorite poet is T.S. Elliot, to which you said they T.S.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

Elliot was used throughout the the the series, and Tessa or not Tessa, but Fern uses it. But we'll get to it.

SPEAKER_03 18:32

Right, but you talked about Elliot's name.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

Oh, yeah, Elliot. That's where Elliot gets his name.

SPEAKER_03 18:37

You said, you said, oh, that's his name. And I'm like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

I know. It was so funny because we were sitting there watching it, and then she said, T.S. Elliot, and I'm thinking, Elliot, Elliot. Oh, that's where Elliot got his name came from.

SPEAKER_03 18:51

Oh, that's where Elliot came from. And still I'm sitting there like, what?

SPEAKER_00 18:54

What?

SPEAKER_03 18:54

Uh, duh. Oh, no, that was funny.

SPEAKER_00 18:57

That that was a wake-up moment there.

SPEAKER_03 18:59

That was like a space. That was a light bulb. He's like, duh. Oh my gosh, I know. If we were calling it, and then she says one of her favorite quotes is I measured my life in coffee spoons.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

Isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_03 19:10

Right? I think that I was like, or a life can be measured in coffee. I don't know the exact quote, but I thought I was. And I was like, that's true too. How much coffee do we drink on the daily? And then Elliot mentions the clock in the wall. He says something about the clock in the wall. And Tessa's like, what? The clock. So now we're we're like, okay, so she's saying she didn't write the letter and she didn't have anything to do with the clock. Now we're really confused.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

Very confused. What happened was somebody is doing something, and then either it's gotta be Griffin or someone else. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 19:48

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 19:49

And then Kat comes running up.

SPEAKER_03 19:52

Kat finally makes it back to 1925. When we get to the present day, we'll see she has been trying and trying and trying, and it's more than a month later, and she finally makes it back.

SPEAKER_00 20:01

Yay! I'm so glad.

SPEAKER_03 20:03

Yeah. And I loved when, you know, Elliot tells Kat, because she's upset thinking he kept everything from her on purpose, which he did.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

Right.

SPEAKER_03 20:13

But she didn't really appreciate that. But he's like, I didn't tell you that I saw my picture because I get arrested and I don't want you to be in any danger.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

Right.

SPEAKER_03 20:23

Like I specifically didn't tell you. I wanted you to go back home and me to stay because I don't want to put you in that position.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

Right.

SPEAKER_03 20:30

And she's like, Well, I would still come. And he's like, I know, I want to take care of you.

SPEAKER_00 20:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:35

You know?

SPEAKER_00 20:35

Yeah, he does. He loves her. But I thought it was interesting because she wants to go back. And he's like, No, I want to get to know my mom. And she's like, Well, you're going to be in danger. And he's like, Well, you did it when it was your family. But you want me to go back when it's my family. I thought that was intense. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:56

Yeah, it was pretty intense. And then well, because he says something about how he's helping them. And she's like, You're bootlegging now. No, I know that was a good thing. They get into a little fight, and she's like, Tessa's setting you up.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

Yeah. You know. She's the one that left you.

SPEAKER_03 21:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

And he's like, I'm not leaving until the job's done. And gets up and walks away. And jots the mic.

SPEAKER_03 21:20

And then a little bit later, we have this scene of um Fern and Tessa.

SPEAKER_02 21:25

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 21:26

Coop. They're in the speakeasy. And Fern wants to tell Cliff everything because you know Fern has caught some feelings.

SPEAKER_00 21:35

Right.

SPEAKER_03 21:35

Lots of feelings for little Cliffy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

A whole bunch of feelings.

SPEAKER_03 21:39

And um, but Coop is like, you know, no. And then Coop gives her a bracelet.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

With a little key on it.

SPEAKER_03 21:47

With a little key on it, and it's a magical music at that moment, which I thought was great. The music is so well placed. It is. And then Kat is there kind of watching them.

SPEAKER_01 21:57

And listening, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:58

And listening. And then When Fern goes to leave, she's like, Oh, I got my bracelet. Because it don't they talk about the bracelet at some point?

SPEAKER_00 22:06

Yes. That's when when Kat started jumping to find Fern in one of the pictures, Fern has the bracelet. So when Kat jumped one time and Fern was at the pond, she said, Where's the bracelet? I know you know Cooper. I know you know Tessa. And she's like, Maybe it hasn't happened yet. Which it hadn't happened. And that was the scene where it actually happens.

SPEAKER_03 22:29

Yeah, where she's like, I realize I finally got it. And then Kat and Tessa have a chat, and you know, Kat's really giving it to Tessa, and Tessa keeps saying, You don't understand.

SPEAKER_00 22:39

You're not a mom.

SPEAKER_03 22:40

You're not a mom. And Kat's like, Unlike you. Well, Kat says, Unlike you, I wouldn't abandon Elliot.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

Right.

SPEAKER_03 22:46

And then she says she would never leave Alice behind. And Kat turns around to leave, and Tessa says, Alice. And she, I think, in that moment is realizing who Alice is. Who Alice is and who Alice was in the 70s. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

You're 100% right. Yeah. That was that was some good writing right there to catch those little nuances.

SPEAKER_03 23:11

So do we want to hold off on the like towards the end part of 1925?

SPEAKER_00 23:17

Or well, it's up to you.

SPEAKER_03 23:18

I mean, we got they do kind of intersect. Well, then we go, we're still in 1925, and Fern and Kat are at the farm. They're waiting for Cliff to leave because they um and Grayson is there.

SPEAKER_01 23:29

Right.

SPEAKER_03 23:30

And Cliff is gonna leave to go get his award. He's won a major award.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

Ooh, a major one.

SPEAKER_03 23:37

Oh, a major award. And Grayson's like, oh, tell me where you're staying. And Cliff says the Saint Regis. And then when or not the Saint Regis, the Regis. And when Cli Cliff leaves, Grayson

The Bracelet Key Changes Everything

SPEAKER_03 23:50

tells Fern and Cat that Cliff is lying. Right. Because the Regis close. So now they know that Cliff is a very good thing. Three years prior. Cliff isn't probably going away. He's probably on to the shipment that they're all going to.

SPEAKER_02 24:04

The hockey brothers.

SPEAKER_03 24:06

Right. The hideout or whatever it is. Right. He's he's kind of on to them. So then now they're suspicious of Cliff.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

Right. And that's when another light bulb goes off. And they all um Kat realizes what's actually happening.

SPEAKER_03 24:24

Oh, right, right, right. That's when they realize, yeah, I spoke a little too soon. Right. And Fern says, Cliff isn't a liar, and if he is, why would he lie? And that's when Kat realizes. Right. That Cliff's a liar, liar pants on fire.

SPEAKER_00 24:35

Pants on fire.

SPEAKER_03 24:36

But there's a good reason for it. There's a good reason for it.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

Yep. All right. So do you want to continue in 1925?

SPEAKER_03 24:45

Um, sure.

SPEAKER_00 24:46

All right. So the next scene is Alice and Fern running up to Elliot at the Augie Boys place. And uh that's when the bus goes down. Cat and Elliot okay are yeah, Kat and Elliot. I mean Cat and Fern show up show up and to where Elliot is when he's at the Augie Boys, they're loading a truck full of the um the boot the liquor, and that's when the bus goes down. And the guy that I was talking about loading the truck in the one scene is actually undercover.

SPEAKER_03 25:20

Right. And you literally are like, that's the guy from Yeah, from the one scene. Yeah, from the one scene. He's back. He was undercover the whole time.

SPEAKER_00 25:29

So yes, Cliff was lying.

SPEAKER_03 25:31

So then they have the raid going on. There's like some dramatic shooting at the Augie brothers, and one of them, you know, and Elliot's like, No, it's my family. But then he tells the Augie brothers, run, run.

SPEAKER_00 25:43

His great grandfather is the one that gets shot and tells them all to run.

SPEAKER_03 25:47

So they proceed to take off, and Cliff finds um Tessa, Elliot, and Kat at first.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Right.

SPEAKER_03 25:55

And he's shocked. And then Fern jumps in front of them and she's like, No, no, don't arrest them, you know. And it and it actually is kind of a you know a great scene in that Fern admits how she feels about Cliff, and she's like, you know, I'm so sorry I didn't tell you, but I couldn't, you know. And you know, you were you saw me. She tells Cliff, you saw me, how I always wanted to see myself, and she's crying. And it's just such a very powerful scene. Yeah, very, very powerful, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:30

Yeah. And then what does Cleafy do?

SPEAKER_03 26:33

He lets them go.

SPEAKER_00 26:34

Yeah, he lets them go.

SPEAKER_03 26:35

He tells them to run. Right. Right? He against his better judgment, but he says run because he's in love.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

Yeah. So now it's the next day, morning, probably, and Elliot and Kat are outside of the Landroid house by the tree, and Elliot tells Kat that Tessa's gonna meet them at the pond later, and he he thinks that they're all gonna jump. Yeah. Well, Cliff and Fern are arguing in a house, which ends up outside, and this was another good scene.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 27:07

Um, but Fern is trying to explain to him everything and gives him the piece of paper, and which is very important.

SPEAKER_03 27:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

And this is the piece of paper that was around the piano key in the present time that the piano tech found. And Fern is confessing she didn't know or what she didn't know what she wanted, but she does now. And it this scene is so good because you could hear the music starting to build up. Yes. And you finished telling it because you're good at telling these things. I can't tell you.

SPEAKER_03 27:42

Um, I'm let me find my notes for you. Um, she says, you know, here she goes to hand him a piece of paper and she's like, This will explain everything. And it is the paper that, like you said, was wrapped around the key, but it doesn't have Cliff's note on it yet. It's just the key on the front with the words. And, you know, Cliff says he can't stay, he feels betrayed. Fern says the farm came alive, yes, came back to life when he showed up. He looked at those empty rooms and he saw life and he brought everything back, and she wants him, and there's very dramatic music. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 28:19

And then they end up hugging, they end up running into each other's arms and hugging, yeah. Oh, I thought that was so great.

SPEAKER_03 28:28

All right, so then we move um to the pond, and Tessa, it's Tessa, Elliot, and Kat, and Elliot is really hoping that Tessa is going back with them. And Tessa is like, I can't jump. My life is here.

SPEAKER_01 28:41

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 28:41

Like, what am I gonna do there? I, you know, I I can't go with you. And then Elliot tells her that he's gonna be back on New Year's Eve, and he wants her to meet him at the pond on New Year's Eve.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

Right.

SPEAKER_03 28:55

And then Kat and Elliot jump and go back to the present day.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

Yep.

The Raid And Cliff’s Choice

SPEAKER_03 29:00

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:01

All right. So that's so that's 1925. 1925. All right, so that's a lot.

SPEAKER_03 29:09

All right, so let's go to what was it?

SPEAKER_00 29:12

Uh eight 1983.

SPEAKER_03 29:15

All right, so we'll try to, and this isn't this isn't too terrible. Is it 83 or 82? I can't remember.

SPEAKER_00 29:20

This one, I think uh What year did we say Kat was born? We 82.

SPEAKER_03 29:25

So I think it's 82.

SPEAKER_00 29:27

Yeah, you're right. It's 82.

SPEAKER_03 29:28

82.

SPEAKER_00 29:29

So Alice jumps A3 and she sees Dell, Colton, Evelyn, Tessa, and Vic. They're all having drinks under their uh pergola um outside of the Landry home. And you Tessa's pregnant and Del is now pregnant, we find out. And you can see on Evelyn's face, she's not happy, and she seems kind of sad, and they're having a discussion and they're they're getting ready to toast, and Evelyn says, I'm done, I'm out. But meanwhile, Alice is watching this all behind a tree. So, and the look on her face when she sees that Dell is pregnant was was pretty good. It was priceless, right?

SPEAKER_03 30:15

Right. She's she's very happy that she gets to witness that particular moment because it's you know it's happy times now for Dell and for Cole, Colton. And what's interesting too is Tessa's having a hard time with her pregnancy.

SPEAKER_01 30:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:28

You remember Vic says she's not sleeping, and Tessa kind of plays it off. So I wonder if there's going to be some of that that plays into well.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

Remember when they were running in the woods from Cliff, Elliot had said, We have to wait for my mom, and Kat was like, No, why should we wait? She left you, and Tessa comes running up and says, No, she didn't. So was she talking about someone else as his mother, or was she talking about her in the third person or whatever?

SPEAKER_03 30:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

No, she didn't.

SPEAKER_03 31:00

So I I wonder, I don't know if she was talking about herself. I I think she was talking about herself, like, no, she didn't, but maybe she was talking about somebody else. But then who is Elliot's mom?

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:12

Her mom. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

Yeah. All right.

SPEAKER_03 31:15

So then we get Well, maybe that will end up playing into it. I mean, you never know.

SPEAKER_00 31:19

Well, they only have two episodes left, so somebody's gotta do something.

SPEAKER_03 31:22

So then, so then we get to Evie's excited to see Alice, right? It's Evie's birthday. She says her parents have moved to Switzerland, but she is all by herself in that ginormous manor or mansion, whatever you want to call it.

SPEAKER_00 31:37

And they gave it to her. So it's all right. Right.

SPEAKER_03 31:40

Now Alice has asked her about the reel because she and her mom in present day, which we haven't talked about yet, realized that Evie probably had the reel. Right. Because it shows up in present day.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:54

And that that Alice thought she threw away in the last episode. And Evie's like, that reel is gone. I was gonna get it, but then Jap Jasper said it disappeared.

SPEAKER_01 32:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 32:04

So now we don't know is Evie telling the truth, but she's really drunk at this point.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

Right.

SPEAKER_03 32:09

She's kind of drunk, so you know, it's the truth serum serum. So maybe she is telling the truth.

SPEAKER_00 32:15

Yeah, that is true. And then the next scene is Alice and Evelyn again. Evelyn is um, she's a little jelly of of Dale and Colton, you know, jelly. She she she kind of liked Colton. Remember back in the early seasons, um, she kind of liked him. And she confesses about having a full life at 25. She goes, I'm 25, and I've already had a full life.

SPEAKER_03 32:38

Um, because she's had a baby. She's divorced, she's married.

SPEAKER_00 32:41

She's divorced, she's alone, she's got a house.

SPEAKER_03 32:43

Right.

SPEAKER_00 32:44

Um, but then she says, Alice, you haven't aged at all, you know. Who are you, Alice? In Wonderland.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

Who are you?

SPEAKER_00 32:51

And she's kind of drunk when she's saying this. So she's like, Who are you, Alice? And as she's laying down, she says, In Wonderland. So does she? I miss that. I thought that was an interesting say right there.

SPEAKER_03 33:04

That's cute.

SPEAKER_00 33:05

And so Evelyn passes out, but here I thought this was good because Alice says um to Evelyn, and of course, Evelyn's passed out after she passes out. I'm still the friend who is always there for you when you need me.

SPEAKER_03 33:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:22

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 33:23

Yeah. Well.

SPEAKER_00 33:25

Oh my God, that tore at my heart.

SPEAKER_03 33:28

It tore at your heartstrings and pulled at your heartstrings a little bit, a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:33

So then Alice uh goes back to Landry Farm and she sees Del and Cole on the porch. And Del is saying, you know, to Colton, you know, we're only here because of you, because you push me to move forward after our hard times. And Alice is watching and crying and just really appreciating that she's getting to witness them right now during their happy times.

SPEAKER_00 33:54

Yep. So she went through all the hard times and now she sees the happy times. So now we're

1982 Alice Sees A Turning Point

SPEAKER_00 34:00

moving into the present time.

SPEAKER_03 34:02

So in the present day, when we first start the episode, it's one month later. Kat has tried to jump in, and the pond will not take her. Spits of will not take her to won't take her at all anywhere. She's still there, right?

SPEAKER_01 34:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:15

So she's grappling with the fact that Elliot didn't tell her about the picture and she can't understand why.

SPEAKER_01 34:21

Right.

SPEAKER_03 34:21

And then we have Abby and Jacob are in the loft in the barn. Now that loft is a character in the show.

SPEAKER_00 34:27

It sure is.

SPEAKER_03 34:27

The loft is seen a lot of a lot of times during the series, which I think is so cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

It is.

SPEAKER_03 34:33

And they're still like hiding their relationship from everybody. They're keeping it a secret.

SPEAKER_00 34:40

Yep. And yeah, that was a good scene too.

SPEAKER_03 34:43

Yeah. Yeah. It was kind of cool.

SPEAKER_00 34:45

Yeah. And she she asked them, Where did you come from? And I was like, if she only knew if she only knew the truth.

SPEAKER_03 34:52

And then we go to the point, which is the present-day name of Coils.

SPEAKER_00 34:56

Because they're having a party. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:57

And Alice is talking to Monica, and she's, you know, Alice is feeling frozen in her writing. Right. Right. Like she feels like she can't write. And Monica is. Oh, I think that are they at the party?

SPEAKER_00 35:10

Yeah, they're at the point. And Kat, it's Kat, Alice, Sam, Monica.

SPEAKER_03 35:14

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 35:15

Alice is telling Sam, uh Kat that she feels like her song writing as doll and Max was right. Yeah. So yeah, that was kind of a pity party.

SPEAKER_03 35:26

And then Monica starts playing the film, and Kat and Alice start to freak out because they're gonna see they're both in the film from the 1970s, and they're like, oh my gosh, they're gonna see us. And then and then all of a sudden they realize it's been spliced together and they have been completely cut out of the film. And that's when they ask Monica where she got it, and she says, Jude.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

Yeah, got it from Evelyn's estate sale.

SPEAKER_03 35:52

Evelyn's estate sale. Yes. Yeah, which I thought was cool. So Evelyn did have it.

SPEAKER_00 35:57

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 35:58

You know.

SPEAKER_00 35:59

Or so we think.

SPEAKER_03 36:00

Or it ended up at her house.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

Somehow it ended up in her house.

SPEAKER_03 36:03

Someone put it there.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 36:05

And at the party, Del has noticed the way Jacob and Abby are looking at each other. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 36:12

That was that was so funny. And mothers know, right? Right.

SPEAKER_03 36:15

Mothers know. And then you fast forward to the next morning, and Del is talking to Jacob, and Jacob fesses up and says, you know, that he and Abby are really into each other. They've caught feelings, right? As the kids say these days. And you know, Del's like, invite her to dinner.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:34

You know, and that way you don't have to hang out in the dusty old barn. And Jacob's like, huh? You know about that?

SPEAKER_00 36:39

Kids are so she's like, I do now.

SPEAKER_03 36:41

I mean, you know, parents know they don't know everything, but eventually they do. You know.

SPEAKER_00 36:47

That was so funny. And then you get Alice and Kat are at the pond. Alice jumps in to go see Evelyn and to see what she knows.

SPEAKER_03 36:58

Yes. I know there's just a lot. There's a lot packed into these episodes, people. A lot packed in. And then we have Jacob and Abby. They're in the barn. And back in the loft. He tells her he wants them, you know, he wants her to join him for dinner. And she's like, it's fine. It's totally fine. It's fine. I'm a marketing whiz. I can do this. I can handle it. You know, I can handle one mother.

SPEAKER_00 37:20

I dealt with million-dollar contracts.

SPEAKER_03 37:22

It's like the epitome of go is going to meet the parents, right? Especially the mom. As a female, going to meet the mom of the guy you're dating is always intimidating.

SPEAKER_00 37:33

Yeah. And this is where Jacob decides to tell her he loves her. Oh my God. And the good thing is she's she says it back.

SPEAKER_03 37:42

She says it back. So I was so happy.

SPEAKER_00 37:45

They're in love.

SPEAKER_03 37:46

Yeah. Yeah.

unknown 37:48

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 37:48

So now we're at the dinner table with Dell, Sam, Jacob, and Abby.

SPEAKER_03 37:52

This is a great scene. This is a great scene.

SPEAKER_00 37:55

I think this is probably my favorite scene because, you know, when you're sitting there and you're meeting the parents and you say the dumbest things that you don't mean to say, but they just come out wrong. That's what Abby did.

SPEAKER_03 38:07

Yeah. Yeah. And Abby kind of trips over her own words. And I mean, there it's just such a cute and fun scene. And I didn't write everything down that that Abby says, but like there's

Present Day Film Shock And Dinner

SPEAKER_03 38:20

a point where Del, because Abby talks about where she lives in one place and her family lives in another. I forget about her family being separated, and Del's like, it must be hard being separated like that. And Abby's like, it was great. You know, and and she sees the look on Del's face, and Abby's like, no, no, no. I mean, what happened to you guys was horrible with you know with Jacob being gone. You know.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 38:43

And then she's talking, Abby's talk, they're talking about the country life. And because I think Del says something to her about, you know, well, City Mouse like you wouldn't know something about the country life. Right. And and she Abby's like, it's there's too much peace and quiet is boring. And she's like, but not that Port Haven is boring. I love Port Haven. And it's just it was so fun little moment. It didn't really last that long, but it's so cute.

SPEAKER_00 39:09

And the way that actress played it out, yeah, was so great with you know, with with Dell and with, you know, so and poor Sam, he's over there laughing, and he kind of helps Abby out by saying he's a city mouse too.

SPEAKER_03 39:22

So right, right. And Andy McDowell is so good in it too because she is she's kind of I I didn't really take it as like digs, but she's kind of like, well, you wouldn't understand because you're a city person, and you know, she wasn't really maybe kind of digging a little bit, but not not terribly hard, you know, and it wasn't like mean or vindictive.

SPEAKER_00 39:40

So I agree.

SPEAKER_03 39:42

And then Abby talks about how she's you know, she's only in town to help her dad with the marketing, and she's gonna go back to Toronto. And Elliot is hearing her for the first time, and he just hadn't really thought about that.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

And you can just hear that record scratch.

SPEAKER_03 39:57

Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 40:00

Oh, that was so good.

SPEAKER_03 40:01

So now they have some things to think about and talk about right after they've professed their love for one another.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

Yeah. And then we have Alice in her bedroom, and apparently she finished a song she was up all night because she was inspired by CN Dell and uh Cole back in the 80s. Yeah. And who does she text saying, Hey, here's my song, You Are the First? It's not Noah.

SPEAKER_03 40:28

It's not Noah, it's Max.

SPEAKER_00 40:30

After Max treated her the way he treated her. Are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_03 40:34

And the song is called Already Home.

SPEAKER_00 40:37

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 40:38

So I have a feeling we're gonna hear that at some point.

SPEAKER_00 40:41

Yeah, I know. I just I just didn't I wish it would have been Noah, but it wasn't. And then go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 40:50

Alice tells Dell that she saw them when you know when Del was pregnant.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 40:56

And Del's basically like, I'm glad you got to see that. She's really touched by that, and she's happy that Alice got to see her happy because and pregnant.

SPEAKER_00 41:06

Because that pregnancy brought her that's yeah, yeah. And now we get Jacob, he runs into Abby at the point and tells her, you know, they can make the long distance. This is what's funny to me, because you know, he he was living in the 1800s and he's like, we can make the long distance count. They have phones now.

SPEAKER_03 41:26

I know it can happen, it can work. I know that was so funny. The way they play into that, yeah, that was really good. Yeah, and then Abby says she's gonna tell her dad the truth.

SPEAKER_00 41:38

Yeah, because she's gonna stay. Aww.

SPEAKER_03 41:41

We're gonna see, no, about well, the truth about her and Elliot.

SPEAKER_00 41:45

Right. Right. And see what transpires, right?

unknown 41:48

Right.

SPEAKER_00 41:48

And then we have Elliot and Kat um walk into the house and they greet Del, you know, because they jump back to the present time and now's right. And then Dell and Sam are on the porch swing. Sam tells Del, you know, he knows about the pond. Because Del is kind of having a moment. Oh, I'm sorry, excuse me.

SPEAKER_03 42:11

She's happy that her kids are happy.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 42:13

And she says something about Colton, like, I wish Colton could see this, or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 42:18

Right.

SPEAKER_03 42:18

And Sam is like, Well, why don't you go tell him?

SPEAKER_00 42:21

That's right. Yep, he did.

SPEAKER_03 42:22

And Dell says, What?

SPEAKER_00 42:25

She kind of has that.

SPEAKER_03 42:28

That was so funny. Go on. Do 10. No, she does, she does really look shocked in that moment. Yeah. And that's when she realizes that Sam knows.

SPEAKER_00 42:38

Yeah. He says, I know about the pawn.

SPEAKER_03 42:41

Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 42:44

And then we get Kat and Elliot looking at the papers that Elliot four fingered and one thumb home.

SPEAKER_03 42:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 42:53

Um, being arrested.

SPEAKER_03 42:54

He stole them, yes.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

And Kat asked Elliot why he was looking at all of Fern's articles, and he said he noticed a pattern um with her writing. And she was using the uh T.S. Elliot, you know, kind of writing uh skills. And um she she said Fern, she is just a messenger, right?

SPEAKER_03 43:20

And well, Fern had said that.

SPEAKER_00 43:22

Right, right. Yeah. And I thought that was interesting because that's when you find because who was it? Was it Kat? Was like, wait a minute. I I remember that, right? And then Kat and Elliot figure out what the words and what the key is. The key is the key, which was uh um oh god, what is it? A cipher. A cipher, thing.

SPEAKER_03 43:42

A cipher.

SPEAKER_00 43:44

Which I thought was really good. And did you write out what it was?

SPEAKER_03 43:47

Well, yeah, what what's interesting about the cipher is we play that game Hunter Killer all the time, which we've talked about before, and there are ciphers in that, and I can't believe we didn't think about that. I mean, we thought about the letter before.

SPEAKER_01 43:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:00

I think it says, and so we were kind of trying to associate that, but it's actually a cipher. So one letter, you go to that letter in a newspaper article, and then you look at the word before or whatever, you know.

SPEAKER_00 44:10

Well it's it ends up being. It is it was you looked at the the word good, and whatever letter was after that, that's the one you write down.

Decoding The Cipher And Theories

SPEAKER_03 44:20

Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:21

Right.

SPEAKER_03 44:21

Right. But how did they know which paper to look in?

SPEAKER_00 44:24

That's a good question.

SPEAKER_03 44:25

Which article to look at. That was my only like, wait, what?

SPEAKER_00 44:29

Well, I guess I don't know. That's a good question, but it happened to be the one where he was arrested, uh known as the big fish.

SPEAKER_03 44:35

Well, and then they realized Fern was sending codes to Tessa through that, and then so it ended up saying NYE New Year's Eve, job botched, tunnels destroyed, five souls in, four out, and Tessa gone. Right. So now they're realizing five souls went in the tunnel, four came out, so one did not, and Tessa gone. So is the one person that didn't make it out the same as Tessa gone?

SPEAKER_00 45:06

Is that like it was Tessa who can't?

SPEAKER_03 45:10

Is it Tessa or is it not? See, I think what's gonna end up happening is even if Tessa is in the tunnels, I think she's gonna end up going to the pond and catching up with Elliot and they're gonna jump. That's what I think.

SPEAKER_00 45:24

Well, here's here's who I think is in there. I think it is actually Cliff. I think Cliff is the one because he's the one that left the letter in the piano, and that and Fern just thinks he never comes back, that he didn't love her.

SPEAKER_03 45:40

Right. So he had to put it in there sometime.

SPEAKER_00 45:43

So he had to put it in there before he left for that tunnel. But I think it's him that gets stuck in that tunnel. Now, whether or not he dies or jumps, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 45:53

We don't know. Yeah, and with Tessa gone, well, but Kat would have to be there too if she were to jump. See, I think I think she's gonna end up going back because she will be kind of backed into a corner in 1925.

SPEAKER_00 46:06

And that's why people think she's gone. That's why Fern thinks she's gone.

SPEAKER_03 46:10

Right.

unknown 46:11

Yep, right.

SPEAKER_00 46:12

I agree.

SPEAKER_03 46:12

But then who would the but if it says Tessa gone, who's the message for then? Who is Tessa, who is Fern sending the message to?

SPEAKER_00 46:21

Well, that's a good question. Is it someone else? I don't know. We're gonna find out. Who do you guys think it is? People out there on the podcast land, who do you think it is? Leave some comments down below. We love to talk about it, like to hear what your ideas are. So we kind of had all those revelations, which I thought was great.

SPEAKER_03 46:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:41

We finally figured out who went in and who didn't. So what was it who went in or who went in the tunnel? We find out about the tunnel and the explosion.

SPEAKER_03 46:49

Well, we've known about the tunnel. We just we still don't know who didn't make it.

SPEAKER_00 46:53

Right, right. So what was your best moment?

SPEAKER_03 46:57

Uh my favorite moment is the dinner scene.

SPEAKER_00 46:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 47:00

With Abby, Elliot, Sam, and Tell. I just thought it wasn't that long.

SPEAKER_00 47:04

It was

Ratings Favorites And Farewell

SPEAKER_00 47:05

so well read.

SPEAKER_03 47:06

I just thought it was so well done and so well played and so real, you know, when you go to meet I agree. The parents of whoever you're dating, it's always nerve-wracking the first time, and you don't want to say anything stupid, and then you end up saying something stupid and you regret it. And so I just thought it was, I thought it was great. I thought it was well played. I really liked it. What about you?

SPEAKER_00 47:25

Me too. That was my favorite scene, too. Same. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:27

Same. All right. Character of the week. Who's your character of the week?

SPEAKER_00 47:31

Man, I gotta go back to Fern, man, because I just love her so much. And this is good. And every scene she's in, she's like innocent. It's effortless. It's her. For me, it's her in this episode. Who do you think?

SPEAKER_03 47:45

She's so good. I'm gonna go with Jacob. Just because I love I like, I like his the evolution of that character, how he's come to terms with modern day, how he's dating, but he's still sort of old-fashioned because he's still, you know, got the 1800s mindset, which is fine to a point. But then because he does come around to with with um with Abby, he's like, you know, I didn't even consider that you might go back right to where you you were living in Toronto, you know, and he's like, and I know we can make it work. And I just kind of think that that shows the evolution of his character. I just so he he's my character of the week.

SPEAKER_00 48:22

He was well ridden.

SPEAKER_03 48:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:24

Yeah.

unknown 48:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:25

So out of five jumps, how many are you jumping in?

SPEAKER_03 48:27

How many are you doing? I want you to go five.

SPEAKER_00 48:29

I'm doing five. This was a this was a great episode for me.

SPEAKER_03 48:32

I'm gonna go five also. I think we have I I am so sad that there's only two episodes left.

SPEAKER_01 48:39

I know.

SPEAKER_03 48:40

Um I'm worried about the final two episodes. I don't know what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00 48:47

Um I hope it's a happily happy ever after. I I don't know that we're gonna get that, but um Or they leave a cliffhanger so that somewhere down the road they can reopen this.

SPEAKER_03 48:58

I hope so. I hope so. We have enough characters and storylines. My gracious, we gotta get to the 80s. We gotta come back just for a movie about the 80s. Come on.

SPEAKER_00 49:05

Let's do it. Let's do it, Hallmark.

SPEAKER_03 49:07

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:08

All right. Well, is that a wrap?

SPEAKER_03 49:10

That's a wrap.

SPEAKER_00 49:11

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SPEAKER_03 49:28

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SPEAKER_00 49:37

Cheers